oops - just seen that I have already said that graphic designers must be taken off the list... keep on repeating myself with that... possibly because it is on my mind most of the time :)
Hi, we are new to this forum, having only joined earlier today, when we came across this thread. Excellent thread and very interesting. Sorry to hear that things haven't gone so well for those of you on the 495 visa and also that it would appear that jobs are not so easy to come by.
We will be applying for the 475 state sponsored visa, does anyone know if this is the newer version of the 495 and does it have the same restrictions?
We are also interested in hearing the views of others who have made the move to Adelaide on a temporary visa and how they find it is viewed by potential employers? Why do they not tend to employ someone on a temporary visa? What is it that they don't like about it?
Well the 457 visa has some tighter restrictions on work etc being a company sponsored visa. Again your not entitled to family credits or allowances etc, but i guess the one upside of it is that you know you will be employed in a job that your qualified to do, and already know the salary you will be on before you get here. Only another 2 months till we can apply for our PR too, so fingers crossed it goes ok.
Hmm, while I feel sorry for you because of how things have turned out, I'm not sure that other graphic designers considering the move would necessarily like the occupation to be removed from the list. The next graphic designer coming over might walk straight into a job, or take a career change in order to pursue their dream of being here. Just a thought!
Originally Posted by jomasey
i'm sorry to hear things were hard for you on the 495 as a graphic designer... for other people reading this who are on a similar visa to the old 495, both myself and my husband have had absolutely no problems whatsoever getting work - we're both in construction, seem to have fitted in nicely to the Adelaide way and the work is there in our industry. Adelaide is a small place and gaining a reputation in an industry, like construction, is important as everyone knows everyone.
i guess it depends on what kind of industry you're in as to how bothered an employer is about your visa - it sucks that a job would be on the list but no jobs available.... The money here for labouring work is more than double what it is in the uk and we find that although some things, like rent is more expensive, what you get for your money is better value than the uk. Plus there are so many 'nearly' free things to do - the beach, walking in the hills, the botantic parks, the museums, so many festivals that are often free too....
best wishes everyone,
This thread is certainly one of the most interesting I have read to date. I am coming over on the state sponsored 475 visa - as a graphic designer. Well, that was the closest thing to what I have done recently. I ran a printing company and part of my role involved me doing graphics.
My wife is a web designer so we both come from that creative background....neither of us have jobs lined up as yet but have seen jobs advertised and have contacted many printing companies as for me this is where I would prefer to be working.
I've done plenty of research and it seemed as if there were opportunities (probably more so for my wife)...but this has got me a little spooked....we fly out in 14 weeks.
the only thing we have got sorted out for certain is a football team for myself to play in......I am prepared for things to be a real slog to start with but I am a real grafter and will not let anything defeat me....so if there is anyone who works for a printers, or knows of a printing company that needs a real hard worker..then I am you man....any web agencies...well my wife is the one for them.
We're here on a 495 and I'm one of the lucky ones who's not had a problem getting a job on this type of visa. For employment in some organisations it's likeky to be a barrier, but for me (I work in HR in a large company) it's not been an issue. When interviewed for this job, I merely pointed out that I have a visa entitling me to live and work in SA. From my limited experience, I think that many employers don't know much about visa categories and some would-be employees who stress the limitations of their visa and go into too much detail might well scare off potential employers.
Originally Posted by MutleyCrew
Just wanted to say to Jim that in the year and a half living in Adelaide I probably saw only around 4 decent design jobs advertised - and believe me I looked everywhere - I am very stubborn and hard working and was constantly on the look out. So I don't think that another designer is going to go and walk into a job - because there aren't any - that is my point. I am a very experienced designer who is great at my job and has worked for some pretty big agencies so I would have got a job if there were any. They should not have graphic design on the list because there isn't a shortage of designers - just a shortage of design jobs.
I guess because you were lucky at getting a job it is hard for you to understand the difficulty others have in terms of having nothing to apply for. I'm glad you got something decent because I wouldn't want you to go through what others are going through.
Please don't be put off by what I say - everyone's experience is different. As your skills are slightly different to mine - specialising in Print and Web - you may have more luck than I did. I am only telling my story to warn people that it is not a bed of roses - because I wish someone had told me that. I'm sure you will be fine and I wish you and your wife all the very best. I have a contact name at a printers in Adelaide - I'll send it over to you on PM. They specialised more in book printing but also had a little studio with some design work going on there.
All the best with your trip over here.
I'm not doubting how hard you've looked or how few jobs there are in your profession, just pointing out that while your occupation is on the shortage list those applying are able to get over here (and quicker than most) which might well suit some who either a) get lucky and find a job in their profession quickly when they arrive (one might come up, you never know!) or b) take a job in a different profession once they're here.
Originally Posted by jomasey
Regarding me not knowing what others are going through, I have had periods in my life where I've been out of work through no fault of my own - I've been made redundant twice in my career and we came perilously close to losing our house during one of these experiences. So just because I got a job quickly here doesn't mean I 'find it hard to understand' which sounds like a rather patronising statement.
Good luck, whatever you decide to do.
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