Hi again!We have our chest x rays tomorrow and medicals for us and the 4 kids in 3weeks time then we wait for the thumbs up(hopefully)for the visa to be granted!Hse went on market this week (had a very keen viewer yesterday).
Originally Posted by aussiewannabee
My plan is to aim to be in Adelaide this September!Before my then 11 year old will have to start in the local high school(deyes high).
These scumbags were all from maghull high(they have been arrested)!Where my cousin's son also goes!
I am (41)just!!!!
I didn't move to Maghull until i was 20 (i moved to Melling actually and lived on a farm with my parents)so your wife would not have known me from school!
Were are you up to with everything?
I immigrated with my parents 17 years ago when i was just a baby with my parents and older brother and sister and have grown up in adelaide, and i can tell you that its not crime free.
Im 18 now and would just like to give you a teenagers point of view on the situation. Before i got my license i caught public transport to school every day. Its not much different here than it is to your story. I have seen countless beatings ON trains and busses and have even had it tried on me a few times. It really depends on what area you move to in Adelaide. If I was bringing a family over from another country into Adelaide i would try to avoid the northern suburbs as much as possible and even some of the southern suburbs.
Teenagers are the same anywhere you go. I went back to england for a few months when i was 16 and there isnt that much of a difference between the teens here and there...except there was more in england....and most are skinny idiots that think theyre hard.
Its just silly to think that there is gonna be a massive difference in the teens in adelaide and england....teens are teens. They all fight and smoke and drink and burn things...fact of life. Some of them just take it further.
End of my rant anyway...just take it into consideration before you assume adelaide is your sanctuary.
So sorry to hear about your cousins son. Its great to see these thugs have been arrested, i just wish the punishment would fit the crime (although i'm well aware it won't).
I hope he makes a full recovery soon.
Hey Thanks for taking the trouble to write that message about "teenagers"!
Originally Posted by scrash89
Really appreciate if 1st hand from a teenager who lives there and has been brought up with the teens way of life in Adelaide!
I take on board (as many others will) that Adelaide is certainly not crime free and you get your fair share of bullies,crime,smackheads etc but we are "hoping" that it is not on the same scale as we are witnessing everyday here now in the UK!It can't be as bad surely!!!!
How do the schools deal with bullies out there?
Do the police sort many gangs out that are causing trouble?
My kids are still only young 3,7,9 and 10 and i am hoping that we would be giving them a better chance in oz!They do not go anywhere yet on their own and it will be a long time off before they will be given such freedom!When the time comes for them to become more independant then we can only do our best to protect them and teach them to protect themselves from the big bad "WORLD" we unfortunately live in!
Thanks again for giving us the info 1st hand!!!!
The police do sort out gangs to an extent...i dont think they focus on it enough though. I had a car stolen from out the front of my girlfriends parents house by a gang thats well known and i dont think they were ever caught even though i told them who they were. They focus mainly on young drivers being "hoons" at the moment.
I wasnt exactly the model student at school but i wouldnt have called myself a bully as such, but i always got away with what i did and i never saw anyone else getting punished very badly for being bullies. Its basically the stupid meat heads that get caught but i suppose they are usually the worst bullies.
Do you have any suburbs in mind for where you are planning on living over here?
so sorry to here about your cousin hope he is well on the way to recovery. Also hope these thugs get what they deserve but I have to say I think it is unlikly probably be back at school next week!!!! Good luck for the X-rays
Originally Posted by scrash89
Thanks for your latest message!
We are not 100% sure yet which area to go for to settle in but have a few in mind to look at when we arrive in September!
These are all suburbs that we like the sound of but we will have to rent a house first until we get a good feel of the place and do lots of research on all these areas (schools being important ).
Keep in touch
Anymore info greatly appreciated!
Originally Posted by scrash89
The issue for all to remember is that the grass isn't necessarily greener, but the issues wrong the grass over there is different to the ones over here, people kicked to death for their £5 supper, 11 year olds being shot, sometimes by other 11 year olds, there are gangs of roving kids, kicking people to death for something to do, I'm in a SE london suburb and, I am in a crappy part of London I admit, it's not as bad everywhere and this isn't a daily occurence here but in the last 3 years there have been incidents of roving gangs of kids attacking people, for no-reason, they threw a girl off of a bridge into the thames, kicked her boyfriend to death and 10 mins later kicked another guy to death, they attacked 7 people in all no-one was let off lightly, these "kids" were all under 20, there have been 3 occurences in 3 years or these rampages.
I was mugged in london a good few years ago by a gang of 4, the main problem was they sent kids of about 11 and 14 while these two monsters lurked in the back ground waiting for me to stand up for myself then it would have been the stabby stabby treatment for me, these days tho it's different, people are being stabbed first then having their money stolen, what chance do you have? it seems that a new level is emmerging, maybe it's something to do with kids being subjected to video games where people maim and kill and therefore they don't see a differnce between reality and the games I don't know but there IS a change in society. in the 80s there was massive crime, but it was more like the crime OZ sufferes robberies and car theft, now someone will simply stab you, take you keys and not have to break into the car, it's a frightening new low at a time the kids know the police won't touch them, it can only get worse all the time the government allows it, which it does, a perfect example is the case over here of Sally Ann Bowman, now rape and murder have always been here, but to rape the poor girl while she was dying, it's a sickening new low, maybe I'm getting old but there seems to be frightening new ways of commiting crime that just didn't seem to be there before and I don't see how it's going to stop or even improve, dark horizon to me, I don't feel I could bring kids up here and feel they were safe, if I had a child beaten up on a train in Oz I would know the outcome would have been graver here, OZ isn't a crime free place and bad things do happen, but not as frequently or as over the top as we seem to be having here.
Sorry if this post upset anyone, i'm trying to give a view of how backwards this place seems to be (and going), it's good to hear from a teenager out there who can see the bad side too, if I was approcahed by a group of 15year olds in adelaide I'd expect to be asked directions, over here I'd expect to be stabbed several times, probably just for their amusement.
Originally Posted by ali@51
Thanks for message hunny!
Thought you had gone or is it just lucky Morgan?
Don't tell me you still have that journey to do on your own with the kids?
Been waiting to hear how it all went and to hear your news from the other side!
Good luck with everything!
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Those suburbs you listed above arent too bad, Im thinking stay away from morphett vale if you can. seaford and seaford rise are quite nice suburbs but they are around 45 minutes away from anything fun so i dont know how much your kids will enjoy them.
One of my supervisors at work moved over here from the UK last year and lives at seaford rise in a nice house and he seems to like it.
Its a good thing you have chosen to stay away from the northern suburbs aswell (elizabeth(s), davoren park, munno para, andrews farm, smithfield etc). The houses there are cheap for a reason.
I suppose you wont understand for sure the similarities and dissimilarities between the crime and gang violence between oz and the uk untill you actually get over here but it didnt seem that much different when i was over in the uk a couple of years ago, my cousins over there are a bit rough and i did see a few things over there that i wish i hadnt but i have seen plenty of things here to match them.
if i were to give you any advice it would be to try and stay away from public transport after dark especially on the weekend and friday nights. especially waiting around at train stations and bus stops and to try and send your kids to a decent school to try and keep them away from the wrong crowds. Drugs and underage drinking are a massive problem in adelaides public high schools but then again if they want to do it they will do it anyway. Its not like it doesnt happen in private schools as well.
I dont really know what more to say, im not trying to put you off moving to adelaide but im just saying that its not all fun and games here either...its definitely not perfect.