We went out last night and left the back door wide open!!!! Not for the first time.
No probs at all.
Back in Nottingham I dread to think of what would have happened!
I think it is really healthy to hear both sides of the story. I know plenty of Brits who have come over, have big pool in the back yard, mortgage free, cash in the bank and think Adelaide is brilliant. Well, anywhere is brilliant when your in that position.
For many who are struggling on poor wages, dealing with the expensive medical system (personal experience), etc etc. life is far from the dream we expected. It is usually those of us that have had a bad experience or experiences that are maybe somewhat negative sometimes. It can be quite annoying when you get criticised for criticising SA or Adelaide, when you have had a rough time. On the other hand I suppose if you are supping champagne by your pool in beautiful sunshine and debt free, you don't want to hear the moans and groans of those of us who are somewhat disillusioned. I always maintained that if we were going to struggle financially, I would rather struggle in the sunshine. There is some slight truth to this but in fact your problems are the same the world round.
I think maybe that many of us set ourselves up for a fall with misguided expectations. There are also many that did their research and for one reason or another are now struggling. I also totally acknowledge that many people are living their dream. I think a dose of reality is great for those coming over, doesn't mean it is all doom and gloom just good to prepare yourself. Aren't the stats approximately that 30% of Brits go home, which throws the odds in Australia's favour.
I am sorry to read you over-reacted. In fact- as I said- I like very much your common sense in general, so I am surprised.
I have highlighted an attitude-held by a number of people as also Jill kindly added-and if you re-read my post you will find that there was absolutely nothing against anybody, and not against you. The ones who say openly why they don't like a neighbourhood or whatever should be invited to elaborate as to why they have that feeling. It helps other people understand. As Kate said there might be personal circumstances, or it might turn up to be a bit of factual info.
Bottom line-on replying to somebody saying something negative about "X" it's more useful IMHO to ask people "why do you dislike living in X?"-rather than "How dare you telling people not to live in X"
Nobody can stop you from making your own mind up- after all I have confidence that people on here can decide what is right for them and they are not going to rely on my opinion. But if I say something useful as to "X is not good in my experience because of so and so" (factual info) then I will be helpful to some people.
When we came to live in Bradford nobody told us what problems might lie ahead- we wish somebody in the know had bothered letting us know just how it was.
Originally Posted by Django
This is the sort of PC response I am talking about!!
Did you read the newspaper article I attached on Elizabeth, Smithfield and Davoren Park?
I don't understand why you would not want to give new/prospective migrants the facts about these areas. The new/prospective migrants (like us once) will be giving up their life in the UK, selling their home, leaving their family and friends, jobs, security of whats familiar to come and start their lives over again. If I have the chance to present the facts about these areas, straight from the Adelaide newspaper, people can make their own mind up whether they want to live there, but in my opninion these sorts of problems are probably the reasons why they are leaving the UK in the first place.
One of the reasons I moved to Australia is because over here a spade is a spade and I was fed up of the PC atitude in the UK where no one felt they could be honest, for fear of repercussions. Its funny the only place I have experienced that since moving to Australia is on this website!
I'd say drive around and avoid any suburbs where (a) there is a lot of graffiti, or (b) where there are a lot of 'traffic calming features' such as speed bumps etc on what look like perfectly normal roads - that to me indicates a lot of hoon activity. Hang around some schools at home time and see whether the kids look smart, with minimal piercings, neat hair cuts etc - that to me indicates higher standards of discipline in the schools.
I won't get into naming suburbs as I know a lot of English people live in places that I wouldn't want to! But everyone has their own preferences, so take what others say into account, but don't make any firm judgements until you've seen for yourselves!
That's all I'm saying!!
You see, to me that's not a PC response, just a reasonable one.
Originally Posted by Jessica Berry
I think it's fair to cite facts about areas, but at the same time shouldn't it really be emphasised that whilst an area might have more negative publicity around it, it doesn't follow that it's all bad theret? And most 'facts', like most statistics,are open to interpretation and may be misleading.
I don't think anyone would claim that it's all good here; it's not. Like Diane says 'everyone has their own preferences, so take what others say into account, but don't make any firm judgements until you've seen for yourselves!' Mind you, I'm not sure about the piercing/uniform thing. APHS is one of the three Ignite programs for gifted and talented pupils and there are a fair few piercings to be seen there. Or ASMS, a well-regarded school with no school uniform and kids that are encouraged to 'be themselves'.
Now off to work!
Originally Posted by Jessica Berry
TOO RIGHT!! People should feel they can tell it as it is. Nobody is going to come to your house and beat you up for it-there is too much at stake to be PC!!
Originally Posted by Nicky
I am sooo sorry I asked the above question, can I take it back? I seemed to have opened a can of worms! I've read all that's been said and agree with everyone (I'm being very diplomatic now!!).
Thank you all for your comments about Xs, Ys and Zs and As, Bs and Cs!?!! I shall now digest it all, come with an open mind and make my own decision. lol
Crux of the matter is...........If you come from an inner city , lets say social deprived area, you will find anywhere in Adelaide allright. If you come from a 4 bed detached , socially well to do area , you will find areas not to your taste. Hourses for courses, each to their own..............and very importantly, people cant always live where they would like (as in UK ) owing to financial restraints.These reasons all affect the differing opinions on suburbs here.
Originally Posted by Nicky
You will find your own place here no doubt. My advice is to rent for 6 months if possible.Get in an area you think you like ( for kids schools ) , then go from there . The longer you are here the more you find out.
Very wise words, thank you.