couldn't agree more !!!
couldn't agree more !!!
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Really interesting to read all the posts on here and i strongly feel that people need to make the right decision for them....there isnt a wrong decision if it will make you happy. Happiness is afterall the one worthwhile achievement we can attain for ourselves and our families and if that is coming home then thats absolutely the right thing...if its ping ponging then if it brings you to a happier place in life..well you'de be a fool not to. There is a stigma i feel to going back to the U.K but there shouldnt be really...we are all just working really hard to make a difference in our lives! Good luck to you all!!!! I personally think you're really brave Yvonne xx
Thanks for that Libby, we are coming over permantly (hopefully) the end of June 09, and I'm getting a bit nervous/scared about the big move but want to give it a damn good go for our children and all of our futures, I know I'll miss the family and freinds but would like to think that we will be able to make some new freindships is Oz. It won't be easy along with finding work and housing but hopefully this site and other sites like this will give us the help, support and encouragement we will need when the going gets tough.
Thanks again Sharon
Well reading these posts gives you the jitters over this side, esp as my Mum has just had a Heart Attack and my Dad -in- Law a Quadruple By Pass, and people in work are saying to me..your not still going now are you?? The guilt is awful, and then worrying who will look after the oldies? But my little one is four and I think of a life for her that is safer than the UK and healthier. If it doesnt work at least we gave it a go. My Dad says Life is not a Rehersal and he is so right, Penny
The only things that suprises me about this post is why people are suprised about people returning to the UK. Over 60% of British migrants return to the UK within a 5 year period.
I have no idea about what makes one person stay and another return, I know of a family here who seemed to arrive on the dream of what life would be like here without a shred of research and they are still here after 4 years. Another friend took years to migrate here, researched everything they could and even got a degree to get the points required, they lasted just 3 months. One more friend returned to the UK for a holiday one Christmas and his wife refused to come back to Australia saying life here was just to brown, dirty and depressing.
Good luck though to everyone with their choices.
Good grief - what a hornets' nest!
It's a bit like asking what's your favourite colour - there's no right or wrong answer. What to one person may seem a trifling matter can seem an insurmountable obstacle to another. I doubt very much that any of us "returners" are going back without much soul-searching and heartache. We've come. We've striven. We've given it everything we've got, and sometimes more than we've had to give. We've all of us lost an awful lot of money and worse, some have lost friends.
I don't think anyone has knocked Australia. For us and some others I know it's to do with work. Yes I could retrain, but I'm in a relatively well-paid, highly-specialised field and still have a house in the UK & a job to go to as soon as I land. To stay here I would have to change career since there's only the one company in my field here, and I simply don't have the funds to finance that. Also, given the current climate, even if I did retrain I'm in my forties and cannot guarantee getting employment post-training. So - decision pretty much made for us.
To those yet to come out I would say be very cautious. If you come out without confirmed employment & a contract in your hand, be prepared to spend a long time without an income. There are some here who have not been able to find work in a year or more, and then not in their original field. Budget carefully - overestimate outgoings, underestimate incomes and add 10% on each for the contingency fund. Decide on a limit (time, money or both) at which you'll decide to make the commitment to stay in Aus or return to the UK. When you do come out, though, enjoy the adventure!*
*statutory warning - fun may go down as well as up and past performances are not an indication of future growth! Sorry Andy!!!
Sorry for the rather rambling post. I know what I mean, anyway! Regardless, a bloke called Kipling summed it up much better than I can:
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
Last edited by TC for short; 04-05-2009 at 03:24 AM.
[quote=TC for short;81967]Good grief - what a hornets' nest!
It's a bit like asking what's your favourite colour - there's no right or wrong answer.
yes there is, its green !!!!!
hope this puts peoples minds at rest a little.