I guess I am just not willing to give up that easily :-) We are determined to make this work. On the job front, I would not feel like I was stealing a job from an Australian, I am assuming everyone submits a cv and has an interview and the best person for the job gets it? My brother lives in Australia and still says there are plenty of opportunities for people that are willing to work hard. I fully believe you get out of live what you put into it. We have managed to survive the recession in the UK with hard work and perseverance and we are willing to do the same in Oz (but with better weather:-) I am sure when you was at this stage you wouldn't of really wanted to read threads about why you should be stopped from going :-), although, I do understand other peoples concerns and enjoy seeing this from someone elses point of view.