I have met some ppl that stay just for citizenship..... Then will go back!!
I have met some ppl that stay just for citizenship..... Then will go back!!
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I'm sure the OP meant it as a fair question, and the answer is that many people do leave Australia – record numbers in the last few years and rising. The biggest category is migrants who have lived here more than five years ...
Often, though, the 'if you don't like it, then leave' mentality is either naive or a kind of intolerance of others' views.
In the case of the former, most people's lives are far more complicated than that to be an easy thing to achieve – especially when you've done it already – as all migrants have – and have invested so much financially and emotionally in the process. With the best intentions and decision-making, the unexpected can still happen and life can turn out tougher than people imagined. It's not just people who change; places go through tough times and things that were once a positive to migrants (such as property prices or jobs) can become a more worrying concern.
With the latter, people shouldn't be made to feel they have to keep their mouths shut on here about their concerns and experiences, or this site becomes a shadow of the community that its members, the moderators and admin have made it over the years. Those who don't want to hear anything 'negative' can always read other posts, start new threads or even block those members whose views upset their sensibilities.
For the record, I doubt we'll be living here in the long-term because SA simply doesn't have enough to keep us here (our seven year old son is already over this place and – having seen the UK for himself a few times – can't understand why we made the move and is determined that he'll be on his way back there as soon as he's old enough to travel alone!)
We had a great life in the UK and moved here for the adventure, not because we thought it was better, which is just as well because in no way do I think that it is! Our next move is likely to be somewhere else in Aus or to a different country entirely, again for the adventure. We'll choose the timing of that, not members on here who get easily upset when others don't subscribe to view of life here.
Don't get me wrong, this place isn't bad; there are lots of places we wouldn't dream of moving to or living in and we chose Adelaide carefully. I wouldn't, though, move here at this point in time if I had a good job and lifestyle in the UK, but others choose to and good on 'em.
Incidentally, I don't know who the biggest whingers are: those facing difficulties who happen to vent about them on here or those who read those posts and make the effort to call the posters 'whingers' ... actually, on second thoughts, I do know!
Can I ask (I'm sure that it has been asked many times before but bear with me I'm new) the people who emigrate here, find that its not really what they want (for whatever reason) return to the UK but then come back here again- what made the UK seem a better option and why when you got there did you decide to come back?
I'll explain my question- we have been here for a while and our children settled quickly and are happy but the adults are confused! It has been very hard going both mentally and financially and many times we have thought of chucking in the towel and going back to the motherland but uprooting our children again seems totally the wrong thing to do! I went back to the UK by myself recently for a family thing and going there was like putting on a pair of comfy slippers but was it 'better' than here as I was in 'holiday mode'?? I know of another family that didn't settle and chose to go back but the UK but they basically ditched all of their Oz friends as soon as they touched down in the UK so have no idea if they think they made the right decision or not! Is there anybody out there who has gone & come back recently and if so why did you return? What was so bad about the UK now that coming back here after deciding to leave was the better option & if you have children did they cope ok?
Apologies if I have done this incorrectly but I've never posted before and trying to put down in writing the million thoughts & questions going through my brain is harder than I thought it would be!!!
incidentally, I don't know who the biggest whingers are: those facing difficulties who happen to vent about them on here or those who read those posts and make the effort to call the posters 'whingers' ... actually, on second thoughts, I do know! ......... well said.
well I guess I fall in to the one of the "WHINGERS" group. !! but it is hard to have a beautiful smile when you keep being kicked in the teeth.. so to speak!.
The question ....... why stay... mmmmmm ...well the question to me is more......why go..
personally when we made the move, I never thought I would still be out of work six months later.. special as being the main visa applicant. or that the landlord would decide to sell the house after 15 weeks of a 52 week contract or what ever else we have had come our way, but then I never thought it was going to be easy either. Why go.. we cant, we haven't given it long enough. we don't want to, we have come to live in Adelaide and that's what we will do, not every thing is perfect. today its raining and yesterday it was sunny! and you know what, the sun will shine again.
I guess it can be down to what you expect out of life? but you can still talk about the rainy days.
I have wondered about the anti whinging, .... like lets start a positive post on "look how great our move/life has been since we moved", or I'm leaving the forum till everyone is happy again. Is it because... I don't like the way that post is going/ the subject.. or has it more to do with. if its not all positive how do people justify to our/ my/ them self's about leaving loved ones or home for the whole better life thing !! if its not in fact all perfect.
One thing I do get from reading all the happy posts, on how well people have done..... makes you see how it has changed in 12 months!.
A few months ago I was told 7/10 electricians return to England, it did come second hand from some one that should know but you can make your our mind up.
oh and this week OH got offered a permanent post... so only 50% chance of showers!
It's an obvious question but not an easy answer. If emigrating were a business proposition you would at least do a Feasibility Study and a Cost/Benefit Analysis first (and not just from a financial point of view). It is also logical, sometime after you have moved, to take stock and review if it has all gone to plan and met expectations.
Life isn't black and white - (it's rubbish in the UK and fantastic here) - but more like '50 shades of grey'!!! For me, some things are better in Australia and some things are better in the UK. If we did a cost benefit analysis now, I'm not sure what I would conclude. Even though I had lived in Adelaide before, has moving here met expectations? Certainly not in all areas. Some parts of our life are great, in other areas we are worse off. Would I move back to the UK? Maybe / maybe not. I certainly wouldn't rule it out, but I have to consider husband and my children too (tbh my Australian husband is surprisingly quite keen to move back to England).
There is an awful lot to consider:
- The cost of moving (more expensive from Aus to UK than vice-versa)
- Children's welfare/schooling
- Long term considerations such as healthcare/retirement
- The trauma of moving again!
It's not an easy decision, and somewhat flippant of people who say if you don't like it then move back. Life's not black and white!
Backpacked round Australia 1992. Married Australian husband in Adelaide 1994. Lived in Adelaide 1994-1997. Moved back to UK & lived in Essex/Herts 1997-2009. Returned to Adelaide November 2009. 2 kids dual nationality.
In reality , Ive never met anyone who has moaned about everything. People have different opinions, and if they mentioned one or two things, whats the problem?...no wheres perfect.
I agree with some things you wrote...however , Im one year into retraining and am actually enjoying work for the first time in 30years!!! ( must be mad) and things are going good. You can dislike some things and still be happy!!!.
Just my opinion......
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Friends of ours from the UK came over to Australia a few years before us. The husband's company brought them over, paid for them to move here, they had a rental set up for them on arrival which was paid for, a job and income straight away, they came over when the exchange rate was high so they had money in their pocket and he did nothing but moan, moan, moan. After 6 years here they went back to the UK and guess what he still moans!!!
Are we happy here ? Yes. Were we happy in the UK ? Yes. Will we stay in Oz forever ? Who knows. Will we go back to the UK ? No because life is an experience and if we decide to move in the future it will be for a different experience.
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