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Cycling is a great way of getting round. You see more things as you go, you get exercise and fresh air, and you feel great when you get to where ever it is you're going. I cycle all over London, and did in Devon/ Cornwall too. There are some idiotic cyclist and drivers about, but drivers always seem to think cyclists have no right on the road, so will literally try to kill you, and some cyclists think they are in the tour de france! (All the gear and no freakin idea!)
I would definitely recommend cycling a long a river (as suggested previously), i cycle along the canal everyday and have seen the chicks break out of eggs and grow through out the summer, i have seen some amazing scenes of nature (seagulls attacking moor hens (maybe that wasn't great but a scene i would never have seen driving), warblington catch an eel, etc). A great way to start/ end the day
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A few hostile and in one case downright idiotic view of cyclists. Never mind, there's always one (sadly).
Out of interest just how much exactly would people think a cyclist should pay in rego if one were to be introduced? Lets see some numbers.
Lets see now mmmmmmmmmmm Bikes use the same roads as other vehicles, use the same signage and line marking too! but bikes do also get extra things provided, they get extra signage and line markings just for them, special crossing points at intersections, some even light controlled, they get cycle ways which other vehicles cannot use, they can even get free parking facilities! so in essence they actually get more provided for them then the general road user, so should they contribute? well read on, some might say bikes do not cause as much wear and tear to the roads as compared to trucks and cars and rightly so, but then, cars do not cause wear and tear to cycle ways do they? some might say the help by there being feer cars on the roads, but it is the tax paying cars that helped pay for the roads that the bikes are using for free! So should they contribute? too damn right they should, but do not think I am anti bike, because I am not so read on, Contributing towards the general costs means that there will be more money to spend on giving cyclists even more and safer facilities, yes?
The problem will always be HOW? and HOW MUCH?, how can you charge little 7yr old Johnny? or the weekend social rider? and the like, thats where it gets too complicated for me and obviously for councils and governments too! so how about we do not bother at all, and accept that at least somethings in life are free (well not really free is it?) and it then becomes an individuals choice as to whether they wish to take advantage or not.
Ok, can someone please explain to me how the system works in Aus?
For example, in the UK the myth of 'road tax' prevails. Article here explaining it
Vehicles in the UK are taxed based on emissions. Some cars pay zero to very little tax based on this. Cycling is emission free afaik. I view them the same as I do zero emission cars with regard to not paying a vehicle tax.
Roads in the UK are funded from other means of taxation.
Nice article here http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ad-tax-drivers
I'm interested in this thread out of curiosity in how roads are funded in Aus. If it comes from other taxation or rego or other vehicle related means.
Anyone know exactly or have any links. I'm going to do some reading in the meantime. Thanks.
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Consolidated revenue, like everything else really, a tax is a tax is an income no matter what the original intent, they just budget how/where they spend the whole of it. Same as UK and most other countries.
The thing is that whilst there is no 'cycling tax', getting out on a bike brings with it numerous cost benefits. The health benefits associated with cycling are obvious; it improves heart health, builds stamina and improves cardio-vascular fitness amongst many other benefits. I don't have any figures to quote but i am sure that the dollar value of savings to the health service that cyclists generate would far outweigh any imposed registration (which would only reduce cyclist numbers and would surely defeat the purpose of having one). In my view, a tax or registration proposal for cyclists will never get off the ground.
As far as taxes go. Any vehicle owner pays a stamp duty when a vehicle is purchased along with periodic registration costs. You can also include in that the costs of drivers licences and fines and penalties. This is state revenue and goes towards (it should do anyway!) towards maintaining state owned roads such as Greenhill Road, Marion Road, Brighton Road, etc...
The Federal Government gets it's 'road' based revenue from fuel. I think that for every litre of fuel purchased the Feds receive 40c. In 2012/13 this accounted for over $14bn. This is put towards maintaining federal roads such as South Road, South Eastern Freeway, Portrush Road, Augusta Highway, etc... They also use this money for programs such as Nation Building or as part of the Building Australia Fund.
Maintenance for local roads generally comes from your council rates although councils can apply for state or federal funding for certain projects.
To be honest it's pointless arguing about it. It's like fat people on planes taking up more than their allocated space and weight, nothing will ever come of it.
I would be happy to pay a annual tax for using my bike to go towards road infrastructure or new cycle paths. I cycle about 5,000km a year so separate paths would make a huge difference to me, hence I'd be happy to pay for it. I also think that bikes should have an RFID tag on the that can be traced when jumping red lights etc.
Look on the bright side, cyclists give lazy people something to moan about!! 😀
I would like to know where all the cyclists are when the weather is bad, suppose they are being lazy like the rest of us? or would that be being wise to suit the cicumstanses like the rest of us?