Originally Posted by ali@51
Thats me told then.
10,000 miles apart and its like were in the same room
I like the advert for this on the TV that says "kick a Vic"!!!!!
Not that I have anything against Victorians.except they steal the water from the Murray!
Ok, firstly the SA/Vic thing - traditional to knock each other, exacerbated by the Victorian Head of State saying in a speech recently that if they're not careful, Melbourne will end up another sleepy backwater 'like Adelaide'! Went down well here, that did!
Aussie Rules does take some getting used to, but having watched it for four years now, I do pretty well understand it, apart from the annual rule changes they bring in. There are 18 payers in each team, substitutions can be made throughout the game without stopping the play, people bearing water run on and off the pitch at whim it seems, and the game is played in four Quarters, rather than two halves! The two Adelaide teams are the Crows and the Power - you will HAVE to choose one or the other to support when you are here - and (at least) once a year they have a 'showdown' where the two SA side play each other. This is in the AFL (formerly the VFL when it was just Victoria playing) and there is also the SANFL which is smaller, local teams. Points are 6 for the ball being kicked between the two tall uprights, or 1 (or a 'behind') for a ball that goes through the two smaller outside posts, or hits a post, or goes through anywhere kicked or carried by the opposing team (i.e. you take the ball through your own goal to give the other team 1 point, rather than risking them getting it and kicking it for a 6). If you kick the ball and someone else catches it cleanly, at least 15 mtrs away, it's called a 'mark' which basically means no-one can tackle you until the ref shouts 'play on' so if you can dispose of it before that it's a good thing! You are not allowed to throw the ball to an opponent, you have to 'handpass' it - ie hold it in one hand and punch it out with the other! That's probably enough to go on with, suffice it to say the players have to be incredibly fit, incredibly brave, and often are on their third or fourth knee/shoulder reconstruction by the time they hit their mid 20s!
Adelaide United - hmmmm - its football (you'll have to call it soccer here!), but not as we know it!! Think Chelmsford United vs Basildon Rovers and you probably won't be far off the standards - occasional flashes of brilliance though (usually from someone like Nathan Burns) and a great family atmosphere at matches!!
Thanks for that Diane.
Originally Posted by Diane
I'd picked up some of that already but it explains some of the bit's I didn't understand. I watched about an hour of the game last night and couldn't work out the mark business - was sat there thinking how come it's a mark he wasn't stationary on the ground, didn't appear to shout for it and didn't seem to make a mark, which is what I vaguely recall you have to do in Rugby.
Thought I did quite well to last an hour but that could have been the reading the paper at the same time bit. Whilst there is undoubtedly a fair degree of skill and athleticism in it and certainly bravery I can't see me taking to it. Still I'm sure I'll keep an eye on it.
Been here 4 weeks now and I've spotted the Crows / Power rivalry. As I managed to work for the Liverpool Echo for 4 years and not take sides between Liverpool and Everton (just laugh at either as appropriate!) I'm sure I can let it pass me by.
Sounds like I'm going to be an Adelaide Utd fan then, when not watching the premiership. The standard sounds ok. Took Joey to see Northwich Victoria againt Cambridge Utd for his first ever real game and he had a great time, even in the freezing conditions in January. Looking frowards to taking him to watch a game in the sun!
The funniest bit is at the end though when these big burly men put their arms around each other and sing their little team song! And I can tell you, they are NOT chosen for their singing ability!
I didn't manage to sit through the whole of last nights match myself though - on Channel Ten the commentators are generally from Melbourne themselves and it shows - I can only really enjoy watching a match if I particularly want a team to win (or lose!)! Hope you get the job with whichever team it was anyway, we need some local journalistic bias!
Sadly nothing to do with journalism -accountancy and personally I think not being particularly interested in the actual sport would be an advantage for the job
Originally Posted by Diane
I'm trying to prove myself worthy of the visa!
Originally Posted by Django
Personally speaking I can't really be doing with sports akin to proper football that have more than one point for a 'score'. To my mind a true sport is one where you can have a nil nil that is as good as many games with lots of goals.
Still it won't be an issue in another week as it looks like Aussie football won't be allowed in the Cook household. Never mind as long as I get the foxtel subscription sorted in time for next season I won't be complaining .
Look, it's all a matter of personal opinion, but we think it's fab! I wasn't interested by soccer when we lived in the Uk and didn't expect to be caught up in the intense emotions that AFL inspire here. I didn't 'get' it and I that was fine by me. Until my son wanted to see the Eagles/Crows semi a couple of years ago...he goes for the Eagles 'cos his friend's brother plays for them, so with the love of a parent, I found a couple of tickets on Ebay, and took him.
Originally Posted by Django
One of our closest friends (a fervent lifelong Crows fan) kitted me out in Crows scarf and jacket, and off I went, feeling a total fraud. I have to say though that we had just the best time! The game (though a bit over my head!) was really exciting and the crowd spirit was amazing. I would recommend going to watch a live game; it certainly made a difference to me. We go to as many home games as we can, although you sometimes have to be pretty quick off the mark to get tickets, specially for the Showdowns.
I used to be surprised by how much people cared about AFL, but I guess it's only the same as some of you guys feel about soccer. AFL does seem to be a universal language and is important to heaps of people here. It's very important to know who you go/barrack for, specially for kids as it's one of the questions I hear most.
As for the team song...you should hear the kids after a match. Now that can be rough as guts but it means a lot to them and is all part of the team spirit.
Anyway, just my opinion.
I'm upsetting everyone today. I'm gonna go and lie low for a bit. :(
Originally Posted by Lazy Cow