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Where I used to work we took a bloke on that had been working in IT for the Government for nearly 5 years and we got rid of him in his 3 month probation period because he could not manage a full week of work, either saying he was sick or coming up with other excuses. Where I used to work we did not have to have pre-employment medicals, but if people were not up to the job we used the probationary period or poor performance procedures to finish the person.
Totally agree with Stevo. It can be hard for people in the UK to understand but the world of work in Australia can be a brutal and harsh place. In terms of sickness and peoples health it is all about what risk and liability that person is to a company. When my partner studied her Diploma in Human Resource Management, out of 8 units, 1 of the units was Managing Rehabilitation or Return to Work Programs which is all about Workcover (not a system we have in the UK) and managing people who get injuried at work, so like with everything employers look to eliminate the risk as best they can and medicals is one way of doing this.
Last edited by Toni; 01-01-2012 at 01:53 AM.
Surely if you are working in IT you always have the option of going contract - in which case you are your own responsibility. Just a thought, worth checking with the agencies.
Backpacked round Australia 1992. Married Australian husband in Adelaide 1994. Lived in Adelaide 1994-1997. Moved back to UK & lived in Essex/Herts 1997-2009. Returned to Adelaide November 2009. 2 kids dual nationality.
Liz, Rich, Hattie, Rory and Trev the dog.
We struggle with that here where we live in the UK :( We don't live near my family, no work near them for hubby, so living where we do, we have only ourselves to rely on. I can occasionally ask a friend to mind our son for an hour or two till I get home, but as most of them have their own kids/jobs also its very rare this can work out. So either hubby or I have to take time off work if our child is ill. We agreed to split it 50/50 so neither one of us has to take longer stretches off, or it all fall on me because I earn less, we do a day each on rotation usually or else a couple of days each if he is poorly with something that lingers a bit. Sometimes hubby can't take time off or is away on business so I have no choice to phone in and take time off at short notice. Its crap but that is just how it is. I spent many years working before I had my son and tbh I covered plenty for people who took time off because they had to to care for their kids. Its not fun for anyone but it can't be helped. I never had an issue doing that. I used to get really peed off though at the people who just called in a sickie when they were not actually ill or were hungover and couldn't be arsed to get up early to go to work or something. Always used to know who those people were and we'd cover for them once or twice but after that happening 3 or 4 times month, we all would simply say we couldn't fill in for them.
My boss when she hired me knew this sort of thing, son being poorly, could happen. Thankfully it didn't deter her from hiring me, nor does my hubby's company have a problem with his caring for his son if ill. I was honest that from time to time I'd have to be off work to care for my son but that I'd also do all I could to ensure I could be there as much as possible, especially on the important days it would be really awkward for me to miss. So we try to balance it so hubby is home on those crucial ones I need to be at work. So far, its worked out. I think we are really lucky to both have really understanding employers (all of whom themselves have younger kids and babies so know full well that kids being ill happens and are in the same boat as us then).
School holidays are awkward but thankfully we have an amazing childminder who takes our son a fair few more hours each time and therefore I only have to take the odd day off work to look after him, or hubby has to come home from work early to take over from me and so on. Its far from ideal but we juggle it all and do our best. I can't wait for being in Adelaide as we'll have no end of family who'll be able to help out, we won't know ourselves!
Its an impossible situation really for most parents. We were all not parents once, so know the other side of the coin and how it goes. But having kids does change things and while most do what they can, sometimes they just cannot come in to work, as much as they might want to.