Electrician in need of help!!!!!!

[Guest Andysparky]

Is there anyone out there that can help me!

I am a qualified electrician who is finding the RPL process incredibly difficult, nearly impossible no one seems to have a straight forward answer as what i have to do to obtain my license.

I am a permanent resident on a partner visa (801) who happens to be a sparky and as a result didn't need to have my qualifications assessed to stay here.

I have spoken to Vetassess and they cant help me as they only deal with migrant visa applicants, someone suggested the TRA but i have been told that they are closing down operations plus the cert from them is not recognised in other states and you have to be supervised for a year!( not really good for a prospective employer).

If anyone can help or advise me it would be greatly apriciated!

[Trickyshel]

hi..

I have p.m.ed you

[Guest Andysparky]

I cant see pms for some reason??

[janice1uk]

My hubby did his wiring regs through peer. He also applied to TRA. Once he had both approvals he then got his Grade A. he didn't have to be supervised at all. Peer contact details are here - http://www.peer.com.au/RegistrationofInterestForm/tabid/129/Default.aspx they should be able to point you in right direction.

[Keith & Linda]

My hubby did his wiring regs through peer. He also applied to TRA. Once he had both approvals he then got his Grade A. he didn't have to be supervised at all. Peer contact details are here - http://www.peer.com.au/Registrationo...9/Default.aspx they should be able to point you in right direction.

 

That appears to be the correct way, I have an English elactriaan working for me on my construction site, Peer wiring regs course 7 day approx $800 if you get a free CITB card first ($1300+ otherwise) also apply to TRA, even though you have done this to get out here in the 1st place, once you have both then you can get your SA ticket $400?, the grade of ticket will be dependant on your UK qualifications and maybe experience.

 

Not too bad a process really, good luck to all.

[Trickyshel]

ELECTRICIAN A class licence for south Australia. and the getting of.

If you have gone down the VETASSESS route stop reading now.... I dont know anything about it.

For the ease of this I will take it you already have a visa and are in Australia and have come fromthe UK, but if not there are a few things to take note of before you leave old blighty

What you need.... to be an electrician in the first place ..with trade papers, apprenticeship, work history, reference’s from old employers........sometime and money! Oh and a strange desire of liking walking up and down CurrieSt/ Grenfell st..

To get the A licence you will need two things... a ATRC.. Australian trade recognition certificate

And the Australia wiring exam certificate.: wiring rules AS/NZ 3000:2007..

When you have these its trip to CBS Grenfell street.. $400, a photo and another two week wait. And a plastic ID cardwill fall though the letter box with Electrical worker on... if you want towork for yourself... its another course about $1500 and another licenceapplication ... and another plastic ID with electrical contractor on, fallsthrough your letter box..

My advice........based on my experiences.... when you get to oz ... or even on the turning the visa on trip!! or decide you want to play with wires again!!!

First thing.. get yourself a CITB number.. Construction industry training board. 5 Greenhill road 5034.. this will save you loads of money... some people get the CITB numbergiven easily... others have to fight for it.. its industry money for training...the custodians of these funds have been known to pick and chose who they like to support... the card takes a couple of weeks to come through and lasts 3 years but you will need a oz address.

ATRC..you may have been access for a visa by the TRA....well if you were.. good but you get to do it again!! If you were the one getting the visa (main applicant)for the family and got accessed by TRA this is good as this will save you about$930 ... if not its $930..

The TRA for a visa is not the same as the TRA for a trade licence.... the second is much more in-depth.. mine was 8500 words and another 100 pieces of paper, some are more some are less.. its down to what you have done really...and it really is worth putting the effort into this second TRA application...

if you have already been access by TRA for a visa, The first application for the second TRA (for a licence ) is free...(but you need the piece of paper with your TRA outcome number on)(if you are still in the UK make sure you don’t sent it with your container) if its rejected and you have to apply again its $930... if you were not the main applicant so not accessed,,, for the visa its $930.

All the guides to this are on the interweb.. http://www.innovation.gov.au/skills/SkillsAssessment/TradesRecognitionAustralia/MigrationSkillsAssessment/Pages/default.aspx

But don’t worry there’s a free help service offered by thegovernment to help you through the TRA process.. “skills SA” @ the skills recognition services 55 Currie st..office on the side of boarding,there you will meet a very helpful chap called “Adam” who will guide youthrough the process so you get a positive first application outcome..... Remember the second one is $930. And once you have sent the application off its 90 days wait.. you will need a Australian address and may be asked to prove it?

Wiring exam..... AS/NZ 3000:2007 two routes TAFE which is the ozzie night school or one of the training schools .... like PEER VEET.

Cost.. Peer Veet is $790 for the course or $205 with a CITBcard.. plus $600 of books. Its 56 hours plus the homework, and you need to seta side a lot of time for the home work.

Is properly the easier part of the whole process.. but this will depend on how up to date with the uk...regs you are?

Its not the multi guess papers of the City and Guilds, its a written course work with exams as you go along... not enough % score and its a resit on that bit..or a resit the whole exam, or resit the whole course.. or sod off your not a sparkie!! The killer is the amount of written work you have to do in the timescale.

If you have done the 17^th or 16^thwiring regs you will have a idea.. if you have done “inspection and testing “you should be not far off the point. If you haven’t done the above you may just struggle.

Here’s Peers price list

http://peer.com.au/Portals/0/Upskill%20Price%20List%201st%20July%202013.pdfnotice the discount with CITB card.

So having got your TRA sent off and the wiring exam passed.. you will for a start need a White card $100 or $30 with CITB.

Then go on every course you can think off to get your Australian qualification up..because despite what people will have you believe it is hardout here at the moment!! CITC are another good training school...

if you are reading this and still in the uk... make sure you bring all your paperwork on the plane, look at the TRA guidelines and start gathering the reference from your employers... its easier in the uk!

 

Enjoy!

Edited August 3, 2013 by Trickyshel

[Guest Katangel]

My husband is having the exact same problem. Went to skills place today and they were no help whatsoever!! :-( he's a fully qualified electrician and feels like he has to start all over again!

[Keith & Linda]

My husband is having the exact same problem. Went to skills place today and they were no help whatsoever!! :-( he's a fully qualified electrician and feels like he has to start all over again!

 

Stick with it! It's not just electricians it is most trades and proffessions. The Pommy guy I have at work found it all relatively simple, just follow trickyshels detailed paper trail and you will get there. I know it all seems belittleing but accept that that's the way it is, go with the flow it will make it all easier in the end, then once you get there you will wonder what all the fuss was about and start really enjoying your life here.

Cheers and Good luck and keep posting here for support and letting others know how you get on it could help others.

[trevorpayne]

Hi just searching for a sparky as I need 3 lights and an extraction fan fitting we live at port noarlunga sth wondered if you would be interested.

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[Pommyspark]

My husband is having the exact same problem. Went to skills place today and they were no help whatsoever!! :-( he's a fully qualified electrician and feels like he has to start all over again!

Its a trick route here where sparkys are concerned, they dont want chancers getting in, they take great pride in there tradies here thats why the pay is good, hence thats why its a tricky processs, I know this for sure !. Are you in Adelaide or uk as your status says nottingham that can put massive hurdles in your way if your not already here.

first, its going to cost, but see it as an investment. 2nd be sure you have relevent uk quals bs7671 means nothing here on its own. 3rd it may take time I mean a couple of years !!, but lets start at the beginning. If the tradie is the lead aplicant then they will have been assesed one way or another, which means you are 50 to 90% there as you have to have proof of basic quals to qualify, if you are qualified with an apprentiship then this is all you need tra will verify this and your home and dry for about $2000, you will need to do aussy wiring rules when you get here. If there's a descrepancy in the apprentiship or qualifications its still not imposible, skills sa will put you on a course at peer at no cost however you must be working in the industry and have been assed by vetasses prior, this will take about 3 months and consist of several visits to peer and exams, also you must complete a years e-profile (a record of type and period of work completed) this may be reduced for retrospective proof of experience in australia, it has to be signed by a company manager or superviser consistently to be valid.

failing these directions you may sign up with a reconised traning organisation (RTO) and re sit all the modules but as an adult aprentice with provable quals from the uk these will be reduced by sitting an entrance exam which will assess your knowage and weak points. This route will cost you, but again if your working you should get citb registerd for finalcial assitance, some places may require you to be a registred apprentice.

barring the tra which provides a equivelent certificate, you will receive a level 3 cert in electrotecnology and can be used anywhere worldwide.

[Guest garrett]

Hi there,

 

I has no end of trouble as well. I finally got my security license.I have to say the best help that i got was from Graham Palmer in regency park, maybe he will have friends that can help you or be able to help you in some way himself. I know he got me the RPL for the industry i am in and is a really nice guy.

 

Hope it helps

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