09-01-2009, 06:20 AM #141
09-01-2009, 06:39 AM #142
Going back should we do it?
Tyke,i do not believe that all aussies are rascists at all, but there is a more ignorant element in that sense here than i have ever found in the uk. There is a world of differance between friendly banter and overt rascism.I have had plenty of stick over the yrs from my hubbies scottish relatives.
I read an article not long ago saying that bullying and rascism was a serious issue in the employment field here,so it isnt just me being a namby pamby.Small businesses are answerable to no one and therein lies a lot of probs here.
In addition i think anyone who is self employed is surely in a better position to dictate his own flexibility and people he has to work with on a dasily basis. I have a cousin who came here worked for various places, hated the inflexibility and treatment, he now by contrast can dictate his own work hrs ,holidays and has a very successful and happy life here, due to his own business.Would never work for an employer here again..
Hubby worked in Queensland over twenty yrs ago and was on better money and hols than he has ever had here.
If wanting some hols and to take your sick daughter on a hosp appt gets you the sack then that is abhorrent in my view and abusive.
I too know a lot of lovely people here,aussies,but that doesnt mean treating some people like serfs is acceptable.
09-01-2009, 08:07 AM #143
I can't help myself I just have to jump in too,
I too was floored the first time I heard a neighbour calling our other neighbour "sambo". (I had a mild panic attack!!!)Within a week of arriving actually, BUT he said it without malice and thought nothing of it....a friendly jibe apparently, as I might add did the african student....racism is to do with attitude in my opinion....IF someone calls a spade a spade but means no harm by it....who's offended by it? My husband is called scottie at work continuously gets jibed about being a tight scotsman and I get told to speak english!!!!we are who we are! and I know that i'm leaving myself wide open to huge critisism but ...keep the political correctness in the UK!!! Fiona xx
09-01-2009, 09:15 AM #144
That statment by BB was acually a statement by John Howerd whe he was PM
09-01-2009, 09:50 AM #145
Good on ya Matt for pointing it out!
I thought this forum was an advisory/support/ make friends networking type of place, not somewhere to get airiated,spiteful and then compound some poor buggers misery with your own horror stories type of thing!
God love the poor buggers having it tough, my heart aches for you; for those of us with more positive experiences, dont feel you have to apologise!!!
At the risk of upsetting the p.c brigade........racism works both ways, you know, i had black and asian colleagues call me "spook"; did i cry? did i run home and hide sharp instruments? NO I bleeding didnt. Colleagues give each other nicknames................and sometimes name themselves disparaging names just to be fun and a bit off notice. i get MOO (cypriot slang for darling) at home, but if anyone asks, i tell, it's cause im a cow!!!!!!
LEAVE IT HERE PLEASE
09-01-2009, 10:19 AM #146
Nice one Jane.
If people knew what Theater, recovery nurses are like behind closed doors the pc-brigade would have a total meltdown lol lol.
Why is it some people find it harder than others to adapt to the Australian lifestyle, attitude and way of life or why are people surprised to find out that you pay for medical treatment.
Did only a few of us research this before we came over?
There seems are a lot of different attitudes to how people find and get on with aussies.
Some on here calling out racism for the way aussies talk and joke. Give it a rest; this isn’t the UK and you just got to live with and get used to it.
How many people do you know in the UK who have complained about immigrant coming over and not adapting to the UK way of life, i have and i admit to it.
My neighbours and i have great slanging matches but nothings meant by it, it’s just friendly banter which probably would land us both in court in the UK.
So far all the Australians i have met, had a drink with and gone fishing with have been brilliant and i fail to see what people have to complain about.
The only one that i have met that’s been given people attitude has been Pommes on the beer.
Yes money can be tight but as long as you can pay your way and put food on the table what have you got to complain about and yes some jobs don’t pay as well as the UK but if you researched before you came you would have found this out anyway.
Please leave the up-tight, PC brigade; I’m British, nanny state attitudes and politics back in the UK where they belong and please just get on and make the most of life here.
Let it end here
09-01-2009, 10:36 AM #147
Just been sent this from the missus mum.
If you find it offensive; sorry but "chill out"
One thing about Australians is that their hearts and humour are always in the right place!
T. B. Bechtel, a part-time City Councilman from Newcastle, NSW was askedon a local live radio talk show, just what he thought of the allegations of torture of the Iraqi prisoners.
His reply prompted his ejection fromthe studio, but to thunderous applause from the audience.
'If hooking up an Iraqi prisoner's nuts to a car's batterycables will save just one Australian's life, then I have just three things to say,'
'Red is positive,black is negative and make sure his nuts are wet.'
Last edited by cornish Busdriver; 09-01-2009 at 10:38 AM.
09-01-2009, 10:40 AM #148
Originally Posted by cornish Busdriver
That's a weird coincidence........... Just read that somewhere else.
My "hobby" forum:)
09-01-2009, 10:58 AM #149
Well I was for having an early night but it has taken me over an hour to read through everything.
Everyone's opinion is different and everyone is entilted to their different opinion, heres mine- We are only here 6 weeks and I can honestly say I neither love nor hate it. I am having a lovely time but have no structure to our lives yet and am finding that very strange (neither of us have jobs yet) but even though we came out here determined to stick it for a minimum of 3 years (we feel it will take that long to re-establish ourselves) if I felt as vehemently about Adelaide as some of the people who have posted on this thread I would head straight back home to Belfast without thought.
At the end of the day it is the Australians country, we are the immigrants-should they leave their home because of us? like so many complain is part of their reason for leaving the UK. We have to adjust- NOT THEM, if we don't like it we can go home
09-01-2009, 11:13 AM #150
I have been following this post for a few days now....and it seems to me that what everyone is saying on here is right in a way.
I live in the UK atm, I am a teenager (although admittedly won't be for much longer) and I am out and about both in work and education. There is a lot of talk here that could be called racist. I myself have said things such a spazz and retard. I am aware that they could be offensive, and I would never dream of saying such things to people I didn't know, but I use them with my friends and my friends know that I am not meaning to be offensive, we are just joking around.
For people who are picking up on what other people are saying and calling it racist, maybe its not? Maybe they know each other and are messing around? Or maybe it's accepted.
However, if you experience 'racist' slang that is aimed at you, and you do not take it to be in a joking way, you have every right to be offended and shouldn't put up with it!
As with unfriendly people, I have come across lots in the UK!! But then I have come across lots of wonderful, friendly, helpful people who I love dearly.
The point I am trying to make is that yes, everyone has different experiences. And many will have heard racist comments or 'unfriendly' remarks but it is in the way they are said and what is meant by them that makes them offensive surely? So some people will be fine with it cuz its all in the name of fun, and some won't be because they know that it was meant to be offensive.
It is like that in the UK, and from what I have read on this post it is like that in AUS, and I'm willing to bet it is like that in every country in the world.
I have a lot of sympathy for those not enjoying their life at the moment, or those struggling, and I hope they make the right decision for them and that things get better. As for those of you enjoying it, i'm very happy you have found the right place for you! And I hope to be joining you out there in a few years and finding it's the right place for me too :)