Thank you so much for all your words of wisdom. I can fully understand all your points of view and I had the same opinions too until now.
For us Australia was about more family time, a better work life balance, about the kids being outdoors more as that is what they love! Less crime and a better education.
Having come to Australia we have found that my husband is working harder and longer hours (he used to work from home in the UK, start at 8.30 and finish at 5.30pm) he now gets up at 7am and doesn't get home till 7pm.
The kids do love the outdoors just as we thought, but when winter comes I am wondering if it will be just like being in the UK , nothing to do!!!
There is certainly less crime so that has met our expectations.
As for better eductaion, I have found that private school is most favoured here and this costs money ($4k), yes it is alot less than a UK private school but you can get good schools in the UK without going private.
most of you have put that there are many free things to do here and everything costs money in the UK, but there are only so many times you can go down the beach before the novelty wears off.
I know this all must sound very negative (sorry), but I am trying to be realistic as the last thing we want to do is go back and realise we made the wrong decision... that would be awful.
We feel that Oz is not more expensive we are just paid a third lower in my husbands wage so the value of our money is not the same.
Please keep responding as your thoughts are invaluble x
What job does your husband do?
He works in sales for the mobile network 3, in the business sector. but he sells to retail too so if anyone needs a mobile PM me and we can get you a really good deal! x
Originally Posted by Moosh
Hi Sorry to hear you are feeling a bit mixed up , we arrived in september and although we are both working and had sold our home in the uk so property wise we will do heaps good I understand what you mean about the cost of living .
We have always said we would give it three years and on very bad(homesick days ) I wish we'd said 1year but our children love it and this is why we came for their for future so that makes me focus for a while .
Do you have children ? and depending on your visa have you been to centre links, because I am shocked at how much is available , we are on similiar wages as in the uk and never got anything apart from family allowence there, however we get help with childcare cost and have been told whist we are renting we may get some help with that.
Try and take it a week at a time when you think of all the efoort it takes to get here it would be a shame to back especially whilst its summer
We have two small children aged 1yr and 3yrs old, and can't afford to put either of them into playgroup/kindy/nursery.
Originally Posted by massive
We are on a 457 temp visa for 4 years, so we are entitled to absolutley nothing through centrelink which is really rubbish as we need all the help we can get!
Our aim is to be settled somewhere by the time our eldest starts school in 2 years we we really need to know by this coming december what we are going to do!
I just wish I knew what to do but I don't know either way as there are good and bad things about Oz and the UK. x x
I have sent you a pm hope it helps
..............a very tricky time for you all!!! We are on a temp 3yr visa, and it is a nightmare when you know you have to wait to PR status before you are entitled to centrelink benefits - but go back to the reasons you came here in the first place - yes the beach novelty will wear off - but you are in a great country - which is only just going into deficit and has immense natural wealth - where in the UK they are £1 trillion in debt - I believe we are in a better equipped country to deal with recession!! Are you guaranteed your jobs back in the UK if you return - they are having a really bad time over there? Did you sell your house before you came? Does the 457 visa allow you to go home and return at a later date?? I have met people and heard from people (ping-pong poms!) who go home and realise the mistake they have made and have come back!! What are your family/friends opinions back home in the UK?
We have bad times too - particularly as finding work is much harder than we thought - but the effort and cost it took us to get here is too great to not give it at least a year - plus we have met some great friends - don't be too hasty in your decisions................................and maybe come along to the next meet up for PIA...............
We have been here for 1 year exactly. We still don't know if we want to stay. Some things here are more expensive for sure. Utilities in SA are the most expensive in Oz and that is official.
We have spent over £20,000 savings (all we had) in sorting things out here, getting very old second hand cars, stocking the larder from scratch etc. We are still paying a mortgage in the UK and yes the house is rented but the rent does not cover the mortgage. We are both working and have well paid jobs. I have 2 kids both in state school. I really wonder how everyone manages to live a debt free life because we don't go out. Been out once on our own since we have been here, we don't smoke, hardly drink and are always short of cash. What are we doing wrong? Lots of hidden costs. We are not entitled to medicare, have a minimum of $500 dollar excess on our medical insurance. So basically have to pay for everything. Fuel is cheaper but you pay a fortune for an Australian licence and car tax. I agree that lots of things are free to go to but by the time you pay for your picnic, or an ice-cream or parking. The costs mount up.
We feel we still need to give it s bit longer before we make any real decision. As has been said i think 18 months is needed to really settle in. For those coming over bring double the amount of money you will think you need especially if you have not sold your house. Unexpected expenses always happen.....
Good Luck with a very hard decision.
We are not guaranteed our jobs back in the UK which is a concern, we would have to get a job back there before we went back.. if thats what we decide.
Originally Posted by wemadeit
Our house in the UK is being rented currently as we couldn't sell it as the housing market was in such a state.
Our visa would allow us to go home for a holiday but not indefintley as we are tied to the company that my husband works for as they sponsored him to come out here. But he doesn't like his job and this is a major concern for him as he has to do it 5 days a week!
I'm so confused!!!!!
Yes maybe we will come to the next meet up, when is it?x x
Give yourselves time...your OH has not been here long and is still proving himself in the Aussie workplace. Yes his hours are longer and the pay is different. I have no wish to be rude but there are many others in the same position. You give the reasons that you came here for and you find you have met them. In a couple of years, or sooner, you might find yourself going back to work or even working now part time.
Aussies have different priorities when it comes to education. Here the whole child is taught including socialising, life skills rather than just being able to answer the questions that the teacher has had to deliver. As a teacher, standards are limited at the moment as there is no National Curriculum but there wasn't one when I was a child either and it does not appear to have done me much harm. Kids of primary school age tend to go to state schools. It is more the kids of high school age who go to private school. But be warned...one of the more expensive schools in Adelaide and considered one of the better ones was surprising in terms of discipline and structure. However, I work at one now that is very good. Please do not use league tables as the basis for determining if one school is good and another bad as they are very false. If Headteachers are fixed on raising the standing of school in the league tables, some teachers are instructed to teach strictly to the test...my OH was told that from Jan to May he was to teach only English, Maths and Science in order to improve SATS results. The kids were bored and so was he within 3 weeks. My children are more relaxed at school here.
Many people coming here go backwards before they go forwards. Give yourself time to really go through the options and look at the career prospects for yourself and your husband, and the all important money factor, before making the decision.
I went back to the UK in Sept/ Oct for the first time since we arrived in Apr 2007. It was great seeing family and friends again, but I knew it would be. However, I came here for my family and my children and having gone back to the UK I am adamant that this is the best place for my children to be. That doesn't mean I am 100% happy to be here, and I do find it tough sometimes, but I made the choice to come and I am staying! You don't have to make the same decision as I did and in your case it is harder as you had family support...we had no close family near us, none at all if truth be told, but I am here, ready to be a babysitter if you need one.