475 visa and state government jobs
Is this a permanent job or a contract position?
Originally Posted by wemadeit
I noticed that the conditions on almost all SA govt websites state that for contract positions then temp working visa is OK [if it covers the term of the contract].
If it is a permanent job, then they want Oz citizenship or PR.
This is crazy. As someone mentioned, how can they sponsor us for 475/495 and not accept our work visas? No wonder the private sector is insisting on the same criteria. They should lead by example!
Originally Posted by mercury
It is crazy!! The visa is in my name and I can't get a job for love nor money (applied for over 150 jobs and had a response from about 10% - some even citing my visa as a blocker!!). Weird thing though is I have 6 job offers from Perth/Melbourne and Sydney - but can't go!! I think Adelaide is on the early stages of growth and aren't used to the numbers coming in! Even some recruitment firms (and I use recruitment lightly - useless more like!!) have told me my visa is a 'potential problem'. When my wife went for the job at SA State govt, she made it clear from the outset the visa we were on and they said it is fine as it is an SIR visa for SA - and her contract is now permanent and we can apply for PR in her name in 2yrs time!
The biggest problem is that the govt are actively bringing people in but are not liaising with the local business community to highlight what the visa's are and the fact we can work anywhere - which is highly frustrating!!
All the best!
Just adding another perspective to this: we're 495 SIR holders and I fortunately landed a job in the first few weeks of arriving here in my usual field (HR). The first few jobs I applied for I gave quite a few details on our visa type (trying to be helpful to the prospective employer) but think I probably scared them off; employers in the main don't know much about different visa categories and spelling too much out can have the wrong effect. In later applications/cover letters, I took out the details and simply put that I held a migrant visa allowing me to live and work in SA (after all, the SIR gives three years of residency, which is quite a reasonable time to be in a particular job). Not spelling the visa details out certainly seemed to help me land a job.
I've been with the company I work for 16 months now and feel very lucky to have such a good job. Good luck to all those looking for work - I hope something turns up soon.
That is great but you must have been lucky! I worked in HR in the UK and have now given up applying for jobs in HR here as have not got anywhere (5 months). I have 7 years exp as well as a Post Grad Diploma in HRM and was not getting any interviews. Since changing my direction a bit and applying solely for senior admin jobs I got 2 interviews in one week. Not sure why this is, maybe it is the Aus experience facto.
I agree about the not mentioning the visa directly though, I just put that I have the right to live & work in Australia and that has been fine.
In most cases, they ask about your right to work right from the start (in the 1st screening interview). Actually, they discriminate between provisional visa holders and permanent visa holders. The letter from Immigration SA is useless.
Originally Posted by Flutterby
I think I prefer the American system where they can only ask for such details after they decide to offer you the job. That way you can be sure that your country of birth is not working against you...
My 2 cents
I have had 3 interviews, only in one did they ask directly about the visa and that was in the chat on the phone before they invited me to interview. This was at one of the universities HR departments and so at least they understood about the visa as had experience with other staff.
I have only had to use the SA Immigration Letter once with a recruitment consultant who refused to accept that I did not only have to pick fruit on the 495 visa. I agree in that case it was useless.
I hear you crystal clear. You are right, some of the employers don't know ( and don't care) about the differences between the provisional and permanent visas. The trick is finding one employer who is not fussy about this and then you are set!
Exactly, I think I have been lucky so far with the employers I have dealt with (except the recruitment consultant!) but still haven't got that elusive full time job yet. Thankfully I am working part time but it is not enough!
Very probably. Another possibility is that the employer recognised an exceptional candidate ...
Originally Posted by Flutterby
Wow.....the thought of heading over there to spend six months searching for work doing ANYTHING scares the crap outa me!
I was made redundant here in April and it took 8 weeks to find a job...which was a hell of a lot luckier than most ..... but those 8 weeks were not enjoyable. I constantly worried...(until i read "The Secret" that is).... so the thoughts of watching the pennies and bank balance diminish while getting rejected for cleaning jobs does make me think twice!
This is the point were loads of you jump in with reassuring messages saying that i'll pick up a minimum wage job no bother, that i should stop worrying and get over here next year lol