Luckly enough we dont have any kids, but i have to say my old school in manchester now body searches kids to see if they are carrying knifes!!!!!!
This can be a very emotive subject with many different, perfectly valid, opinions.
It seems to me that a lot can depend on where you live, what catchment area your children will fall into and how far they are willing to travel to attend the school of their choice.
My daughter was at a good grammar school before we came over. She was doing well, but pretty unexcited with the work. She went back to year 7, which worked well as it gave her some time at primary school (as well as getting to graduate!). The primary school she (and my son) attended have a programme for Students of High Intellectual Potential (SHIP). Whilst I don't have the experience to generalise, I know the programme's been around a fair while and isn't unique to that school.
High school kids may be eligible for the Ignite programme, which is pretty much a continuation of SHIP. Three schools in Adelaide offer Ignite, and I -and more importantly, my daughter - have been very impressed with the school's flexible approach to her study. She has really enjoyed her two years in high school here. Year 10 Ignite students may study yr 11 subjects (and yr11's; yr12), if that's what they need to stay interested and focused.
Schooling was an absolute priority when we came over, and the first thing we looked into. I know there are schools that I would not want my kids to go to, just as there were in the UK. I don't believe things are so different here; there are good and bad schools, 'nice' and less desirable areas. Sweeping statements are just not helpful IMHO.
I'm really impressed and grateful for the education my children are receiving - even compared with the 'good' schools they would have attended if we were still in the UK. And my kids wouldn't go back.
Oh and yes, both are state schools.:)
We came to Australia because we believed that it offered us and our children, most crucially, a better way of life.
I have met and worked with a number of Australians while in the UK and none of them ever came across as a illiterate moron with few job prospects.
There are good and bad things about all schools, wherever they are. The education system here is different.
Private schools are more accessible as you would expect in a country where the class system has essentially been broken down. Going private is of course an option but that doesn't mean that the teachers and standards are any better.
State schools are accessible to the masses, kids of all walks of life mixing together and hopefully coming out at the other end with a little bit of common sense and the necessary skills to earn a living.
Can Aussie kids do that? Yes.
Are the schools the same as in England? No.
Why not? Because Ozzie schools are in Oz and UK schools are in UK.
Teaching here has a different focus. Instead of it being all targets, targets, numbers and grades/ levels, the kids do matter. They are more relaxed, sociable and grounded. By the time the kids get to year 8/9, the work is similar to that of the UK. The standards vary from school to school.
DON'T SHOOT ME NOW but as a teacher I have worked in both private and state schools during the last 4 months. I have chosen to send my daughters, my raison d'etre, to state schools here that have good reputations but which more conveniently happen to be the catchment (zoned) schools for where we live. They are 14 and 11 and are doing fine. They have made friends, doing well at school, doing homework, being set work in some subjects which they find easier than in others, having to research things etc.;)
Pm me if you want more info.
By the way, I am a secondary school teacher and hubbie is a primary school teacher. We have seen both worked private and state schools since our arrival.
Hi. Not sure if this message goes to Foxychick or everyone. I have a five year old who did half a year in Reception and a half-term of Year 1 in the UK. I took her out of school at October half-term as we sold our house in London and I've had to move into my mother-in-laws in Ireland until we leave for Adelaide in January. She is due to start at Scotch College in Torrens Park in February. I am an English teacher so I am spending 2 - 3 hours a day teaching her the basics so it remains fresh in her mind. The school wanted to put her into Reception but I decided to keep her in Year 1. I started school in the Flinders Ranges at 4 and, apart from knowing I was the youngest in the class, I didn't have any real problems. She was so excited about starting Year 1, I didn't want her going backwards. I have no issues with her academic abilities and feel she is doing everything a 5 and a half year old girl should. Based on the limited background information I have provided, do you think keeping her in Year 1 was the right thing to do? Thanks.
Originally Posted by Bodie
I would say keeping her in year 1 is the right thing to do, if she is at the work level she won't have any problems, the kids all just accept each other.
i went to high school adelaide (Pulteney Grammar) and before that state schools in Vic
obviously i know people that went to state and private (girls, boys and mixed) in adelaide
i believe that the general standard is good - there are some state schools with a high reputation - unley, marryatville, norwood, glenunga, mitcham girls and some that are not
i used to also play sport against many of those 'other' schools and you get to know them very well and competition (not targets) does seem to drive us physically and academically further
one things that SA does suffer from is poor retention in some parts with kids leaving early - although this is not a problem if people are moving to apprenticiships
my own personal view is that adelaide has generally good schools and while i am sure some people will regale us with horror stories i bet that is no different to the UK
by the way, i live next to a school in south london (for past 6years) and will be it interesting to see if schools back home are 'tamer'
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Hi Sarah, Interested to here from someone with nearly same age kids as us, we have two boys soon to be 15 and 17.WSould you say your big kids have settled well with all the changes and are they enjoying schooling in Adelaide. Our 17 year old is sitting 5 highers in May/June normaly he would take two years to do this but due to us moving over to the sunny side :Dhe will be completing in one year. However from what i can gather from your post there may be an opportunity for him to continue schooling?The 15 year old has not reached the Exam stage just yet and from what i can gather is probably moving at a good time last couple of years to gain a qualification ?i don't expect him to stay at school any longer than he has to as he doesn't enjoy it at all!!
Here's hoping the change will do him good TAFE sounds like a good option for him as he would like to do joinery.Do you know what age they can start these courses i'm sure i read somewhere that in specific states young people can leave school at 15yrs.
Any infomation would be greatly appreciated costings etc,we have looked at lots of different areas but not decided on anything as yet still waiting on medicals being sent off !!
Thank-you in advance Karen
I'm new to PIA just waiting to have Police checks and meds done. Having just read your message to Trisha ref schooling please could you let me know which school your children are attending we have 2 children Charlotte 6yrs 7 in July 08 and Jack 2yrs 3 in Dec 08 hopefully arrive in Adelaide visa permitting Apr/May 08. I know we have to get a feel for the school and its a personal choice thing but I would like to be able to start looking at web sites and get some idea of where we would need to be living and looking for work in relation to the children being at a school where they feel happy and we are happy with the education being taught.
Thanks Sharon and Paul