Hi all, My OH has just got a date for his practical Vetassess plumbing assessment (14th July. If anyone else is going drop a line to say hello!). We have just got info off agent and aswell as general plumbing there are sections for either gas or roof plumbing. Matt is'nt corgi registered so assume gas is out of the question but he is'nt really familiar with roof plumbing either. Has anyone done the Vetassess practical and come across this problem? Would love to hear any ideas and info regarding anything to do with the assessment. Look forward to chatting lots now I have discovered this site. Jane
My o.h did his back in feb, also general plumber, he would be happy to give your o/h pointers for the day, He was also advised to take the gas option, and he too is not corgi!
Happy to say he passed!
Thanks Dawn, I'm sure Matt (my OH) would love a chat so that would be great. You must be well on your way now, I could ask you so many questions but I'll restrain myself so as not to look like some internet stalker! In short would love to hear how things are progressing for you. I keep wondering how long each process takes and if immigration changes will effect us. I am a teaching assistant so my job is'nt on the list so I'm no help (apart from filling in forms and writing letters and emailing!) OH here now so I'll start with the plumbing questions if thats OK.
1. Is there much bronze welding (silver soldering) or any LCS (black iron) pipework?
2. Not sure what to do about the gas/roofing option. Were you advised on the day or did you have to choose before hand?
3. How many different tasks are there - any surprises or all usual plumbing?
Thanks for your time.
Hi Jane, i don't mind you being a stalker lol, Its a nerve racking time this vetasses lark! Im just trying to find a thread that John posted. so will be right back with it for you!!
Originally Posted by jlr248
You have to choose the option beforehand!
[IMG]Plumbing vetasses-the saga of the day
I have just taken and passed my plumbing vetassess in accrington on the 19th feb. Found out i had passed on the 24th of feb, hats of to vetassess for the turn around in result times, this is supposed to take two weeks, i am well impressed.
The day starts at around 7.50 am ,should be 8.00am but allow 10 mins to walk up the hill to the building and the mile long walk to the workshops with all your tools, everyone who has done the walk will remember this.
The assessor will take you into a classroom, this is where he will check who is who and describe the day and the tasks to you.
Straight after registration the assessor will walk you around the practical bays and tell you what needs to be done but is on hand all day to help.
I will say at this point the tech guys are brilliant and help in anyway they can and enjoy a good laugh too.
The assessor, i had a guy called graeme, is brilliant, a good laugh but is still there to do his job.
You start the practical assessments at around 8.30 am, you can choose what you want to start with, i chose the framework option, this includes the brazing, dont worry, the tech guys show you how if you are not sure and you get more than one go if you mess up.
The framework is measured to the millimetre, not to difficult, but a square is usful for this.
At this point i had my first interview, the hot and cold water interview
the questions were not to hard b ut you will need to read up on a few things
health and safety
hot water controls you will need to name a selection of valves you would find on a standard system ie, non return, pressure relief etc, the more you answer the better it sounds
i found i was describing everything as if i was talking to someone who had no idea what i was on about, which is what they want ie, i had a question about making a concrete base for a shed, dont forget to tell the assessor you have to excavate the ground or use shuttering.
A couple of questions about trenching , sprinkler systems, how does a pump work ( use the word impeller and describe how the pump works)
after my interview i did the gas practical, this was straight forward using 3/4 iron, threaded on the rigid machine, again if you are not to sure the tech guys will show you
you will have 3 measurements again to the millimetre, and run it to feed imaginary gas appliances, this part you just throw the pipework in anyway you want making sure it is of a professional standard, and then soundness test it with the assessor present, then it is time for the gas interview
the gas questions were about lpg, soundness testing, finding leaks on a pipe run, flame failure devices, thermostats (high limit stats) , i had a couple of questions on compartment ventilation and pipe sizing.
I gave text book answers on these as i found it easier, also differences between natural gas and lpg, i just launched into calorific values, pressures etc and this seemed to answer his questions
once that was over the sanitary / soil practical, i lterally threw this in, in half an hour.
You have a cleaners sink a basin and a wc, and all you have to do is run pipework at the correct gradient and clip the pipework to uk regs. The wastepipe work is all 40mm and there is no gluing it is all pushfit, this is run into a stub stack, which you have to fabricate, which incorporates a branch for the wc and topped off with a durgo valve.
Then the questions begin,
septic tanks, storm drains, sub soil drainage, gradients for 100mm pipe ( dont forget at this point to mention you will actually dig a trench to lay the pipe in and they like to hear you would lay it on a bed of pea shingle, mention manholes or rodding points on any bend you may need, clipping distances, types of soil stacks, i had to describe a one and two pipe system and how the septic tanks works
then the magic words-----thats it you are all done---- were said, thats when you can relax and have a chat with the assessor, and no, he is not there to catch you out but make an overall assessment of your abilities.
I thought i had messed up with some of the questions, but i would say today, dont kill yourself with worry, make the most of the assessment and show the assessor how good you are and beleive in your own capabilities, or do what i did and treat it like a day at work
good luck, john[/IMG]
Hope this helps but ask away hun x
Thanks so much, this has really helped. Not sure Gas will be the best option for Matt. I don't suppose your OH has any ideas about what is involved with the roofing option? Thangs again . jane
Originally Posted by jlr248
Im not sure but i will ask him, there are some links on pomsinoz the link to this one that might help!
Originally Posted by Dawny
Just been reading through your day at the assessment. I have got my day coming up soon and wanted to ask a couple of questions.
1. You refered to septic tanks....I've been plumbing over 20 years and never fitted one.....is it time for me to start reading up...lol......
2. With gas, im a registered gas fitter but only work on natural gas and not LPG...and nver worked on LPG...will that give me any grief on the day. Is it worth me getting my ACS folder out agin and read up on compartment ventilation....
3.Most of my work is installation of new boilers/bathrooms/soil stacks....have't done trenching, fitted manholes and rodding points, surely I know what they are and how they work but never fitted. gradient fall on soil runs on pea gravel....Pea gravel I know, but not the correct gradient...I looked doomed...lol...
4. With brazing....I haven't done that since college.....in 1990.....
If you could get back to me that would be helpful.
Hi jane....Im about to take my practical assessment.....To be honest im crapping it....Let me know how your O/H gets on...
Originally Posted by jlr248
hi mike, to be honest it is all textbook stuff, read up on lpg, ie working pressures, hose coloring, safe and unsafe situations ,etc, yes on compartment ventilation and a lot on safety, ie overheat stats, hi and low level stats etc on boilers
Originally Posted by mikeskinner1272
septic tanks, again just text book stuff, you will need to know how they work in detail, to be honest this is really easy.
just remember you need to explain everything as if the examiner is a complete idiot, start from scratch for example i was asked a question about how would i go about making concrete footings for a shed, remember"this guys an idiot", tell him you will have to actually dig out the footings first, put up shuttering, tell him you will use concrete to a 4 in 1 mix and tamp it down, how deep the footings will need to be in comparison the the weight it will hold
i know this seems really daunting at the minute but it is really just another day at the office, i was bricking it on the day as you know how much is riding on it, but it was really quite enjoyable, if you are going to accrington this place was brilliant, the shop guys, the examiner, there was a lot of piss taking and as far as i know everyone passed
the brazing, i must admit i was a bit put off by this, but just treat it like very hot soldering, the workshop guys will show you and it is really easy to pick up as with the threading machine, i hadnt used one of these since college, but all came back to me in an instant.
go in there believing in your ability and honestly you will walk it
read up a little bit on health and safety like ladders and roofwork, a lot is just common sense
drains , again is just text book stuff, gradients( you will need to gradients for up to 4 inch pipe, go with 1 in 40 and you should be ok, mention to dig out trenches you would use an incidence board( google was very helpful on all of this) and you would use access points on corners etc
hope this helps, give us a shout if you need to ask anythin g else