migration disappointment

[Guest ozfish]

:sad:just got off the phone with a migration agent who told me that cos i don't have a degree in midwifery/nursing ~ i only have a diploma, that I might not get a visa! I'd be better waiting until july when the rules change to see if i am still eligible!

sooo... where do i go from here? very despondant!!!!!

[Guest Guest6899]

:sad:just got off the phone with a migration agent who told me that cos i don't have a degree in midwifery/nursing ~ i only have a diploma, that I might not get a visa! I'd be better waiting until july when the rules change to see if i am still eligible!

sooo... where do i go from here? very despondant!!!!!

Hi, I only have a diploma but presume you wont have enough points when the new system comes in. I did a quick add up and dont get anywhere near what maybe required 60/65pts. Think time may not be on your side as even if you go on a 457 route you need to registered with ahpra (as far as i was told with somebody doing this visa) and thats taking a while.

Maybe somebody else can suggest something???

Lisa

[Gollywobbler]

:sad:just got off the phone with a migration agent who told me that cos i don't have a degree in midwifery/nursing ~ i only have a diploma, that I might not get a visa! I'd be better waiting until july when the rules change to see if i am still eligible!

sooo... where do i go from here? very despondant!!!!!

 

Hi Ozfish

 

How much post-qualification experience do you have, please?

 

Did the migration agent discuss the possibilities for employer sponsored migration to Oz? British-trained Nurses and Midwives do not seem to have any problem with getting hospitals and health authorities in Oz to sponsor you for visas. I'm not involved in the medical profession in any way but there are several specialist agencies who recruit nurses for particular hospitals and similar. I've heard of one, which I think is called Ramsay Healthcare or similar.

 

I am wondering whether employer-sponsorship would be a viable alternative way to get you out to Oz?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Scousemouse]

What BUNKUM!!

 

Never heard such dross..............nurses are in high demand in Australia, and you would have as much chance with a diploma as a degree.

Specialist areas (midwifery; theatre; intensive care) are very helpful, but that doesnt mean your chances are reduced!!

Recruitment agencies are always on the prowl for UK nurses; try one of them..........employer sponsored visas are available.

 

Keep ya chin up, and talk to another agent.

 

Regards

Jane

[Guest Trakki]

I can't see there will be a problem, the majority of uk nurses here have the diploma not a degree, I was told when we come out by hospitals here that our nursing diploma is equivalent to their degree. I don't know how the new points system works but I really wouldn't worry. Hospitals here love experienced UK nurses.

[Guest Guest6899]

Have a look at http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-fact.pdf

The new system as far as i could see did not give any points for a diploma, Yes we can work and register but under the new system unless you have a degree you do not get any points. i had a quick look and think i only got 40 points and need 60/65!! many people are worried about the new points system.

[Guest Buttons]

:sad:just got off the phone with a migration agent who told me that cos i don't have a degree in midwifery/nursing ~ i only have a diploma, that I might not get a visa! I'd be better waiting until july when the rules change to see if i am still eligible!

sooo... where do i go from here? very despondant!!!!!

 

If you have a diploma already could you not do the extra bit of study for a degree? That way you won't have any problems with meeting the required number of points.

[Guest ozfish]

If you have a diploma already could you not do the extra bit of study for a degree? That way you won't have any problems with meeting the required number of points.

Hi thanks for that~ yes i could do a degree but as i am 39 this year i don't have the time. once i'm 40 there is no chance!

[Guest ozfish]

Hi Ozfish

 

How much post-qualification experience do you have, please?

 

Did the migration agent discuss the possibilities for employer sponsored migration to Oz? British-trained Nurses and Midwives do not seem to have any problem with getting hospitals and health authorities in Oz to sponsor you for visas. I'm not involved in the medical profession in any way but there are several specialist agencies who recruit nurses for particular hospitals and similar. I've heard of one, which I think is called Ramsay Healthcare or similar.

 

I am wondering whether employer-sponsorship would be a viable alternative way to get you out to Oz?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

 

Thanks Gill,

i have 15 years experience working a a hospital midwife. Have been looking at a 176 state sponsorship as this would give me just enough points as long as i submit before i'm 40(next year).

[Willber]

Hi, have you been to one of the expos that they have in the UK. I have no idea about the medical side of getting a visa but their has always been a couple of stands for the medical profession and they seem to do interviews there and then. Might help having a one to one discussion with someone which might give you a better idea of where you stand on getting a visa.

Andrew

[Scousemouse]

Ozfish,

i came out just 2 years ago, aged 42..on a sponsored visa; changed to pr once i got here.OK it cost me more, but it was our best and quickest option at the time!

Please dont fret, As Trakki says, UK nurses are seriously liked here, the training and experience is a real plus.

 

Many hospitals have sponsorshop authority, and im certain your experience will help.

[Gollywobbler]

Thanks Gill,

i have 15 years experience working a a hospital midwife. Have been looking at a 176 state sponsorship as this would give me just enough points as long as i submit before i'm 40(next year).

 

Hi Ozfish

 

As I understand it, the issue with you is not necessarily Points. I think it is whether or not DIAC's new regime would accept that your skills are acceptable if you do not have a degree.

 

I think we need to start with the link below (because it is the quick way of finding the right part of the ANMC website!

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/m/midwife.htm

 

http://www.anmc.org.au/

 

I don't trust myself with this medical stuff because I know nothing about how a midwife is trained. Please double check the ANMC website yourself. I think that a British-trained midwife only has to do a "modified" skills assessment or something, but since I'm not a migration agent, I've never helped a midwife with the skills assessment part of the process so I do not claim to understand any of it properly.

 

You have to get a positive skills assessment BEFORE you can apply for State Sponsorship from SA and nowadays, you also have to get the SS before you can apply for a State sponsored sc 176 visa. So the first thing is to ask you to check whether you would be OK on the skills assessment part of the process.

 

Then let us assume that you have obtained a positive skills assessment plus the SS from SA. Fast forward to the points required for a sc 176 visa, which are below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/176/eligibility-applicant.htm

 

From what you have said, at the moment I think your Points score is probably 125, which is more than enough, made up as follows:-

 

20 - Age

25 - Proficient English (compulsory with your job, I believe.)

60 - Nominated occupation

10 - State nomination

10 - Specific work experience.

 

The DIAC website does the sums if you insert the individual points and it says 125, when 100 would be sufficient. The Table is interactive, so if you click on "Age" it tells you how to work that bit out and so on.

 

However, it is now the middle of April and you would have to submit your visa application on or before 30th June 2011 for the above information to be valid, because a lot of things are going to change on 1st July 2011 (the first day of Australia's 2011-2012 Financial Year.)

 

The ANMC are not quick and you would also have to do well in a the Academic version of the IELTs in order to get the compulsory 25 points for Proficient English (compulsory because of your occupation.)

 

http://www.ielts.org/default.aspx

 

I think the migration agent has been telling you that s/he thinks there would not be enough time to do everything that you would have to do before 30th June 2011. Also, please go back to the ASRI list:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/m/midwife.htm

 

It says that the occupation is in ANZSCO Group 1, which requires a degree. Does the ANMC website also insist that a British-trained midwife needs a degree nowadays, please, in order to be able to apply for a GSM visa for Oz?

 

Realistically, I don't think there is enough time for you to be able to jump through all of the GSM visa hoops prior to 30th June 2011. The skills assessment people can't be guaranteed to move quickly, the IELTS centres don't run tests every week in a test centre that would be convenient for you, Immigration SA take about 6 weeks, I think, and so on.

 

So the next question is, "Would it still be possible for you to apply for a sc 176 visa after 1st July 2011?"

 

The answer to that is, I don't know because the Government have said that they intend to alter the Points test on 1st July 2011. Please see the links below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-fact.pdf

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-testfaq.pdf

 

As far as I know, some of the details are still being hammered out. For example, are they now going to insist that a midwife must have Superior English in order to get a positive skills assessment from the ANMC?

 

If we work it out as pessimistically as possible, to be on the safe side, it looks like your Points total will become 65, worked out as follows:

 

25 - Age

20 - Superior English

15 - Overseas work experience (assuming that yours has been both continuous and full-time, with no career breaks during the last 10 years)

05 - State nomination (or 10 points if you choose the Regional 475 visa and Adelaide remains a Regional part of Australia)

 

I think that they intend to set the pass mark for a sc 176 visa at 65 points, so it does look as if you could just about do it, I think? Am I right about this, do you reckon?

 

What everybody else on this thread has been saying is, "Why bother? Why bother with all these contortions - that Houdini would be proud of, for sure - for the sake of a sc 176 visa when you could simply stroll into Oz via using an employer-sponsored visa instead?"

 

Now - I asked you whether the migration agent you contacted told you about the employer-sponsorship option? Did s/he do so, please?

 

If not, the drill with them is that first you would get a temporary visa, called a sc 457 visa, but after a couple of years on the sc 457 visa, your employer would be able to nominate you for Permanent Residency, either via an ENS visa or via an RSMS visa. Please see below:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/medical-practitioners/visa-options-nurses.htm

 

For some occupations, particularly trade skills, the sc 457 visa is not a brainy idea. The reason is because there is no guarantee that the employer will remain in business for long enough and also because most tradies in Oz are self-employed, so a tradie who is chained to working for an employer will not get top dollar in his/her trade. For them, it is safer to get a GSM visa if possible.

 

However with medics, the 457 visa is not unattractive. The chances of the employer going out of business are virtually nil and even if the employer does go bump, medics are in such short supply that a competent medic can soon find another employer in Oz. On the plus side, if you were minded to go down the employer-sponsorship route, the advantages are:-

1. There is no need for a formal skills assessment and I think there is also no need for an IELTS. You just register with the relevant Nursing/Midwifery Board in the State in which you will be working;

2. You need not bother with Points because they are only relevant to GSM visas, so issues of Points do not arise.

3. The medic's age is practically irrelevant as well because both the ENS and the RSMS visas contain exemptions for age, and in some cases exemptions for formal qualifications as well, because the employer reckons that the medic who has been working in Oz for him/her is good enough at the job, so who are the pen-pushers in the Government to argue with the expert Aussie employer's assessment?

4. The job has been arranged in advance, along with the sc 457 visa, so the medic is sure of walking into a secure job very soon after arrival in Oz.

 

There are minuses as well. It would be silly to pretend otherwise. They are:-

1. The holder of a sc 457 visa is not a Permanent Resident of Australia so it is not possible for him/her to claim things like Child Benefit from Centrelink (the equivalent of the DWP in the UK);

 

2. The holder of a sc 457 visa is not, technically, entitled to Medicare (the equivalent of the NHS in the UK). However if s/he is British, s/he is actually entitled to Medicare for any *necessary* treatment because there is a reciprocal health care agreement between Oz and the UK:

 

http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/migrants/visitors/index.jsp

 

Aussies like my sister moan about Medicare. Elaine (my sister) reckons that it is hopeless to be expected to wait for 6 months for, say, a hip replacement op in Australia. (They should try waiting for the NHS to get round to it in the UK, in that case - that would soon stop the moaning!) From what I've seen with my elderly mother, who had to have emergency hip-replacement surgery in Oz when she was 80 and was only in Oz on a visitor visa, Medicare were firkin brilliant and they looked after her as if she was their own mother or granny.

 

3. School fees can be a problem if the Parent holds a sc 457 visa but this is only true if the Parent is in NSW or the ACT. SA does not differentiate on the fees according to whether or not the Parent is on a 457 visa or something else.

 

4. It can be more difficult for the holder of a sc 457 visa to get things like mortgages and personal loans - because they might not stay in Oz indefinitely - but I've never heard of a medic having a problem with this sort of thing.

 

5. In some places (but not in SA) I've come across Nurses complaining that they are being rostered for all the grotty shifts that nobody else is willing to do because the hospital knows, allegedly, that they have the Nurse on a 457 visa over a barrel. As against that, though, it would not be difficult for a medic on a 457 visa to find a less unreasonable employer if this issue really does become a problem.

 

I think, on the whole, that a 457 visa is OK for someone in the medical profession, and all the medics who have replied to you seem to agree.

 

How do you feel about it though, please?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Scousemouse]

Gill, thats amazing, bloody good job!!

 

I got a mortgage on a 457 visa, the rules about foreign investment changed a while ago so you dont actually need permission anymore...............

 

457 visa holders as nurses, well, depends where you work, and the hours, as to the shifts you get rostered!! Full time nurses do cop for the "heavy shifts", not because they're overseas nurses, but because they are there!!

[Guest ozfish]

thanks Gill, for all that advice.We had really wanted to go down the 176 route because of the benefit immediatly.but if the 457 is the only option the it will have to be that~ my friend in Melbourne did that then applied for permanant res. when she got here. I think i will contact another few migration agents, the ones i've all contacted have said it wont be in before 30th june due to the time it takes for ielts and skill assessments...hence the worry. thanks again

[leelee53]

Can I ask you to please name and shame the agent who told you that? They sound a bit too negative, Im sure employer spons could be a way in for you. Dont give up. I was also told there was no route for me by an agent. I decided to do the research for myself as I wasnt convinced, and have found a way in. Good luck ;o)

[Gollywobbler]

Can I ask you to please name and shame the agent who told you that? They sound a bit too negative, Im sure employer spons could be a way in for you. Dont give up. I was also told there was no route for me by an agent. I decided to do the research for myself as I wasnt convinced, and have found a way in. Good luck ;o)

 

 

 

Hi Leelee

 

I think that Ozfish was given the correct advice, actually. I think the problem in her case is that there would be a heckuva lot to do, everything has to be done in a particular order and none of the people involved (eg the ANMC and Immigration SA) are likely to agree to make a special exception with ultra-quick turnaround times at their own ends because they will be snowed under with other applications and so forth.

 

Would it be worth her while to embark on the process - eg by getting a skills assessment - on the basis that if there is not enough time before 30th June, she would definitely still be eligible for a GSM visa on or after 1st July?

 

Again, I think it is very finely-balanced. Working out the figures, it seems likely that she will be able to get 65 points for a GSM visa but there are some hugely important factors which have not been announced as yet - eg will the ANMC require a score of not less than 8.0 in each module of the IELTS? At the moment, nobody knows because the details have not been confirmed as yet. So nobody can say for sure that she would definitely be OK on and after 1st July 2011.

 

There are beginning to be some fairly strong rumours that the new Points Test will not be going ahead at all. The reason for the rumours is because a LOT of people will not reach 65 points even though Australia needs the people concerned.

 

I'm not sure whether I believe the rumours. If the details of the new points test are released too soon, there will be a surge in last-minute applications towards the end of June. It might be that the silence from DIAC is solely aimed at avoiding a last minute surge rather than that they are unhappy with the sorts of results that the new Points Test will produce.

 

So fwiw, I think that the agent has been right to be very cautious in the advice given to Ozfish since she has said that she would prefer a GSM visa to going down the employer-sponsorship route. An agent would not be certain of being able to get a good result for Ozfish at the end of the day.

 

That said, some migration agents are overly-cautious and some of them just plain don't know enough about the relevant Law. I was given inaccurate advice about my mother's eligibility for a Contrinutory Parent visa by 3 different agents, back in 2005. They all said that she would not be eligible because she wouldn't meet the Balance of Family Test.

 

I checked the DIAC website myself and realised that there was a doubt about whether Mum would meet the BoF Test or not. So I wrote to the Parents Visa Centre, explained the potential legal problem and asked what they thought? They replied confirming that although the legislation itself is not clear on the point, their Policy would require them to give Mum the benefit of the legal doubt. After that it was plain sailing. I got the application ready, sent it off and Mum has had a Contributory Parent visa ever since 2006. I'm the living proof that some agents do sometimes get it wrong.

 

What happened in your own case, please?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest ozfish]

Hi Leelee

 

I think that Ozfish was given the correct advice, actually. I think the problem in her case is that there would be a heckuva lot to do, everything has to be done in a particular order and none of the people involved (eg the ANMC and Immigration SA) are likely to agree to make a special exception with ultra-quick turnaround times at their own ends because they will be snowed under with other applications and so forth.

 

Would it be worth her while to embark on the process - eg by getting a skills assessment - on the basis that if there is not enough time before 30th June, she would definitely still be eligible for a GSM visa on or after 1st July?

 

Again, I think it is very finely-balanced. Working out the figures, it seems likely that she will be able to get 65 points for a GSM visa but there are some hugely important factors which have not been announced as yet - eg will the ANMC require a score of not less than 8.0 in each module of the IELTS? At the moment, nobody knows because the details have not been confirmed as yet. So nobody can say for sure that she would definitely be OK on and after 1st July 2011.

 

There are beginning to be some fairly strong rumours that the new Points Test will not be going ahead at all. The reason for the rumours is because a LOT of people will not reach 65 points even though Australia needs the people concerned.

 

I'm not sure whether I believe the rumours. If the details of the new points test are released too soon, there will be a surge in last-minute applications towards the end of June. It might be that the silence from DIAC is solely aimed at avoiding a last minute surge rather than that they are unhappy with the sorts of results that the new Points Test will produce.

 

So fwiw, I think that the agent has been right to be very cautious in the advice given to Ozfish since she has said that she would prefer a GSM visa to going down the employer-sponsorship route. An agent would not be certain of being able to get a good result for Ozfish at the end of the day.

 

That said, some migration agents are overly-cautious and some of them just plain don't know enough about the relevant Law. I was given inaccurate advice about my mother's eligibility for a Contrinutory Parent visa by 3 different agents, back in 2005. They all said that she would not be eligible because she wouldn't meet the Balance of Family Test.

 

I checked the DIAC website myself and realised that there was a doubt about whether Mum would meet the BoF Test or not. So I wrote to the Parents Visa Centre, explained the potential legal problem and asked what they thought? They replied confirming that although the legislation itself is not clear on the point, their Policy would require them to give Mum the benefit of the legal doubt. After that it was plain sailing. I got the application ready, sent it off and Mum has had a Contributory Parent visa ever since 2006. I'm the living proof that some agents do sometimes get it wrong.

 

What happened in your own case, please?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

Thanks for the reply Gill~ i was about to go and book the ielts as another agent said do it asap~ but i'm not sure now?

I am hoping for state sponsorship so need the ielts before the skills assessment. so will have to wait n see what others say, emailed a few more agents to get a consenus of opinion.

[Gollywobbler]

Thanks for the reply Gill~ i was about to go and book the ielts as another agent said do it asap~ but i'm not sure now?

I am hoping for state sponsorship so need the ielts before the skills assessment. so will have to wait n see what others say, emailed a few more agents to get a consenus of opinion.

 

Hi Ozfish

 

It is your money and what you do with it is no business of mine. However I do tend to agree with the second migration agent who says that you ought to do the IELTS and get that out of the way. If it turns out to have been a waste of money then you'll have lost about £150, including the cost of petrol to get to and from the Test Centre for the IELTS, parking charges etc. My own inclination would be to risk wasting the money in order to try to save some time with the whole GSM process.

 

However, if you read most Internet forums, they say that a Nurse or a Midwife must score 7.0 or above in each of the Modules of the Academic version of the IELTS. That advice has been correct up to now.

 

In your case, though, I'd err on the side of caution and aim for a score of not less than 8.0 in each of the Modules because you may need the extra points if the new Points Test comes to pass.

 

The good news is that everyone says that the Academic version of the IELTS is easier to pass than the General version. Medics do not tend to have problems when they do the Academic version and it is compulsory for medics to do the Academic version rather than the General IELTS. So it might sound a lot more alarming than it would prove to be in your own case!

 

The General version of the IELTS is the kind of rubbish that is typical of the British Council. (A bunch of do-gooding Colonial civil servants, originally, who went around the Colonies and ex-Colonies of the British Empire encouraging the Natives to learn to speak English. When I was a child in the 1960s and 1970s, we lived in Malaysia. The British Council duly turned up in Ipoh, a secondary town where we lived, with a troupe of otherwise failed British actors in tow. The actors had come out to Malaysia in order to act in a Shakespeare play, no less. Presumably the British Council clowns thought that it would be a good idea for the Natives in Malaysia to learn about "British Culture" - of which Shakespeare has never been a typical part! So I've despised the British Council ever since. How presumptuous do some people get, I've always thought?)

 

I heard about a British Bricklayer who did the General IELTS. A LOT of tradies are dyslexic but are very good with their hands. The IELTS is not easy if one is dyslexic and one has never been academically minded. Apparently it got to the Speaking module and the examiner asked the Brickie to speak about what sort of contribution his local Library was making to the community where he lived. Anyone who lives in the real world would twig that if you ask a Brickie what contribution his local pub makes to the community, he can probably discuss that fluently for at least 30 minutes. As it was, the relevant Brickie was dyslexic so he had never been into his local Library, was completely floored by the question and then he became flustered and fluffed the Speaking module. I have no faith in any sort of a Test which asks a Brickie such a daft question in the first place.

 

For medics the IELTS is easier because because you are used to the academic side of life and most of you have learned the knack of passing exams even if the subject matter of the exam is neither relevant or interesting, so you should be OK with the Acadenic IELTS.

 

So if you decide to do it, ask around on the forums and get some tips from the other medics who have done the IELTS. After that, good luck with it, hon. I'm sure you'll sail through it without any problems.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest ozfish]

Hi Ozfish

 

It is your money and what you do with it is no business of mine. However I do tend to agree with the second migration agent who says that you ought to do the IELTS and get that out of the way. If it turns out to have been a waste of money then you'll have lost about £150, including the cost of petrol to get to and from the Test Centre for the IELTS, parking charges etc. My own inclination would be to risk wasting the money in order to try to save some time with the whole GSM process.

 

However, if you read most Internet forums, they say that a Nurse or a Midwife must score 7.0 or above in each of the Modules of the Academic version of the IELTS. That advice has been correct up to now.

 

In your case, though, I'd err on the side of caution and aim for a score of not less than 8.0 in each of the Modules because you may need the extra points if the new Points Test comes to pass.

 

The good news is that everyone says that the Academic version of the IELTS is easier to pass than the General version. Medics do not tend to have problems when they do the Academic version and it is compulsory for medics to do the Academic version rather than the General IELTS. So it might sound a lot more alarming than it would prove to be in your own case!

 

The General version of the IELTS is the kind of rubbish that is typical of the British Council. (A bunch of do-gooding Colonial civil servants, originally, who went around the Colonies and ex-Colonies of the British Empire encouraging the Natives to learn to speak English. When I was a child in the 1960s and 1970s, we lived in Malaysia. The British Council duly turned up in Ipoh, a secondary town where we lived, with a troupe of otherwise failed British actors in tow. The actors had come out to Malaysia in order to act in a Shakespeare play, no less. Presumably the British Council clowns thought that it would be a good idea for the Natives in Malaysia to learn about "British Culture" - of which Shakespeare has never been a typical part! So I've despised the British Council ever since. How presumptuous do some people get, I've always thought?)

 

I heard about a British Bricklayer who did the General IELTS. A LOT of tradies are dyslexic but are very good with their hands. The IELTS is not easy if one is dyslexic and one has never been academically minded. Apparently it got to the Speaking module and the examiner asked the Brickie to speak about what sort of contribution his local Library was making to the community where he lived. Anyone who lives in the real world would twig that if you ask a Brickie what contribution his local pub makes to the community, he can probably discuss that fluently for at least 30 minutes. As it was, the relevant Brickie was dyslexic so he had never been into his local Library, was completely floored by the question and then he became flustered and fluffed the Speaking module. I have no faith in any sort of a Test which asks a Brickie such a daft question in the first place.

 

For medics the IELTS is easier because because you are used to the academic side of life and most of you have learned the knack of passing exams even if the subject matter of the exam is neither relevant or interesting, so you should be OK with the Acadenic IELTS.

 

So if you decide to do it, ask around on the forums and get some tips from the other medics who have done the IELTS. After that, good luck with it, hon. I'm sure you'll sail through it without any problems.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

Thanks yet again Gill! you are a mine of information. I think I've decided to book the IELTS( once i've done another exam next week!) and sort our agents etc on the back of that result. just waiting for other agents to send stuff via email.

thanks again:chatterbox:

[Guest nicandchris]

hi yes im confused about it all. Im now (yest 41) have five years nursing experience and a degree in nursing and got all the 7's needed for the ielts but am unsure about whether id get in with the new system. however, the agency dont seem to think that id have problem..umm im unsure!

[andi]

Dont give up, we tried 3 times for our TRA, after the 2nd fail we change routes even though our agent said we wouldnt get it by linking 2 trades together but we did. Been here 7 months and loving it. Keep trying.

[Gollywobbler]

hi yes im confused about it all. Im now (yest 41) have five years nursing experience and a degree in nursing and got all the 7's needed for the ielts but am unsure about whether id get in with the new system. however, the agency dont seem to think that id have problem..umm im unsure!

 

Hi NicandChris

 

From what you say, the agents have been working on the premise that Nichola will be the main visa applicant. There is a lot of sense in that because RMNs are included in almost all of the SMPs and probably always will be.

 

How far have you got with the process so far, Nic? You say you have done the IELTS but have you obtained your skills assessment as well? Are you planning to get SMP sponsorship from SA?

 

I'm asking these questions in order to get an idea of whether or not everything is likely to be ready in time for your agents to lodge a GSM visa application for you prior to 30th June 2011. If they are able to do that then the question of whether or not you would still remain eligible under the proposed new Points Test is irrelevant, surely?

 

You can work out what your Points total would be likely to be under the new Points Test by following the links I provided to Ozfish in my earlier post to her. What do you reckon your score would be under the new system, please?

 

One final question, please! Why was it decided that Nic should be the main visa applicant rather than Chris, please? Do you particularly want to head for SA or something? What would Chris's points score come to under the new system, please?

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest aogley@gmail.com]

hi my wife is a neonatal nurse in adelaide ,she says you need to ring the wards direct or speak to HR,there are jobs out there.

[Guest nicandchris]

hi there Gill

 

Thanks for the email, ok ive got a job offer with peyton and the plan was to go over on the 457 however because we have a little one ive been thinking of the 176 basically for security.

 

Ive looked at the old points system and just under cause of my age and it would seem that im just under and with the new system i dont seem to just have enough but i freaked out to the agent and she again didnt seem to think that id have a problem?

 

Chris is 46 this year and i wouldnt want to put him through the ielts as it was stressful for me!

 

I just need to know for sure because if not then ill just go onthe 457. i wanted life to be a stressless as possible after arriving so thought that having the visa already would help with it all!

 

sorry i meant to add that ive just about got the nursing registration as they have taken my money so when that comes back i could apply for the modified skills assessment the agent would certfy the docs as ive already done this for the nursing reg but need to do it again as ivegone around the whole thing backwards. the agent seems to think that id get the visa this year but is this abit far fetched?

[Gollywobbler]

hi there Gill

 

Thanks for the email, ok ive got a job offer with peyton and the plan was to go over on the 457 however because we have a little one ive been thinking of the 176 basically for security.

 

Ive looked at the old points system and just under cause of my age and it would seem that im just under and with the new system i dont seem to just have enough but i freaked out to the agent and she again didnt seem to think that id have a problem?

 

Chris is 46 this year and i wouldnt want to put him through the ielts as it was stressful for me!

 

I just need to know for sure because if not then ill just go onthe 457. i wanted life to be a stressless as possible after arriving so thought that having the visa already would help with it all!

 

sorry i meant to add that ive just about got the nursing registration as they have taken my money so when that comes back i could apply for the modified skills assessment the agent would certfy the docs as ive already done this for the nursing reg but need to do it again as ivegone around the whole thing backwards. the agent seems to think that id get the visa this year but is this abit far fetched?

 

Hi Nic

 

How does the agent define "this year," please? If he means this financial year, it ends on 30th June 2011. DIAC might process your visa application by then but if not, I should think it is a certainty that they would do so before 31st December 2011.

 

Cheers

 

Gill