Hi Scott , being from manchester and a mad city fan [ many a good game with the chelsea] i wont mention ROBINHO and our new arab friends to much !!. We to are moving to adelaide hopefully very soon [ cannot sell the house]. Visas need to be activated very soon [ dec 08]. Adelaide is our first choice , we visited a couple of years ago , best mates moved there 5 years ago [ red tho ] they love it and have never looked back , both work ,kids settled they just love the ozzie way of life and the weather etc.They have not returned to the uk as they do not miss anything apart from family , but they have had more visitors coming over there, there sick of all us poms. My mate tells me the good/ bads of adelaide and the GOODS definately outweigh the bads. True there is crime but isnt it everywhere but not like manchester / london etc , he also says its quite expensive to live , but again so is rip off uk. Since moving ther 5 years ago he as never been out of work as moved from one house to a better one , lives to a decent standard etc and is enjoying is kids growing up in a better place, he as many new friends and feels totally at ease .GOOD LUCK and i hope you enjoy and settle in adelaide as he as and we hope too.
WE GOT ROBINHHHOOOO !!!
Originally Posted by Chelseadownunder
I'm living in London, was in OZ for just over a year and spent 3 months living and working in Adelaide, I saw all of the major towns and cities in OZ except Darwin, (I was put off by more than one Ozzie from Darwin telling me about the humidity problems, clothes rotting in the cupboards and people going crazy because you cant get dry)
I hated the UK when I left and wanted to leave as much as possible but now I'm back I love it, that said I still fully intend to Emmigrate in the next couple of years to Adelaide, my personal reasons are for the future of any children. I was sat on the beach with my better half and there were kids everywhere, I made a comment about bloody kids being everywhere, she pointed out that they were doing their PE lesson, that included, beach volleyball, sea kayaking, surfing; made my miserable cross country runs in the cold rain look like a punishment, I want that sort of future for my kids. the main things that you can't get in Oz that you can get in the uk are as follows:
In London you can get everything you want, there is literally SO SO much to do, (if you have the money) Theatre's, Concerts everyweekend, massive shopping facilities, massive history tours and thigs to see and do (globe etc), a variety of museums and icons to visit, odd ball things like Tussauds, the Dungeons etc etc etc the listy really goes on and on. that's not to say Adelaide doesn't have anything, it's just not anything like the same scale, people (brits and travellers) I spoke to when I was there complained that there was nothing to do, when I'd ask how long they had spent in the city it was always the same answer 2-3 days!!! it took me ages to get used to the pace and feel of Adelaide, but when I made friends with the locals life was really really good, the basic difference is in Oz you have a lot of opportunities, life can be what you make it, so you don't have the same access to materialistic things over there and it IS different, but I for one loved it.
I was shocked to see how people treated each other back in the UK and I had more than my fair share of strange looks when I struck up random conversations in pubs etc, it felt like the UK knocked my confidence at every turn, and thoughI love being in the middle of things here, I cannot settle back in even after 4 years back in the UK, it's not an exaggeration when the Ozzies talk about us being unfriendly, we're not unfriendly just very defensive all the time, it takes a while for your guard to come down and realise that every person you walk past in the street isn't going to try and roll you over, or the kids outside the shop aren't going to hassle you, mouth you off and throw stuff at you, I don't want my kids becoming like that, plus I like the natural outdoor things to do more than any Lakeside shopping centre!
I lived in Adelaide for 3 years and I did come back. My main problem was home-sickness and missing my family, plus there were financial/job reasons that made England much more attractive at the time. My Australian husband came back with me and hasn’t moaned too much about England, at least not until the past couple of years where the summers have been so awful.
Originally Posted by Chelseadownunder
I totally agree about shopping being a British pastime. We sit here at the weekend, with it pouring down outside with 2 young kids and scratch our heads what to do (this seems to be both winter and summer these days). We have exhausted all the local facilities and attractions. My sister always used to take her kids shopping at the weekend, to Lakeside or wherever, as a leisure activity but I can’t think of anything worse than wondering aimlessly round the shops with 2 kids in tow!! My son plays football which gets us out at the weekends but it can get a bit grim getting up early every Sunday morning to go and stand in a muddy field getting soaked or freezing cold. Life doesn’t have those hardships in Australia and I suppose the Aussies don’t realise how cushy they have some things. I don’t think I ever saw mud when I was in Adelaide.
It’s true that the general attitude to life there is more relaxed; in shops etc people are very helpful, no worries. Strangers will strike up casual conversations. Try doing this in England and 50% of people will talk back but the rest will either ignore you or try to get away as quickly as they can. However, my husband’s brother and sister in Adelaide are both really stressed out. They are both mortgaged to the hilt and working long hours. They have both bought houses they couldn’t really afford and the kids have to have all the latest toys and singing/dancing lessons, go to private schools etc, it all seems very competitive. To be fair they are probably in the minority, but life in Adelaide seems to be getting more materialistic. But at least they can have a Barbie and know the weather’s going to be good, they can go down the beach in the evening for a swim, go to the pub for a meal and take the kids with them, have a beer at the surf club and watch the sun go down.
At Easter we were in Adelaide and we were invited to stay at my husband’s cousin’s holiday home down the Yorke Peninsular on Good Friday. Everyone kept warning us we’d have terrible trouble with the Easter traffic. Being used to the M25 we felt we could cope with most things. As it was we were held up for less than 10 minutes at Port Wakefield where 2 lanes merge into 1 !!!! Some Aussies have no concept of the complexity and pace of life here and it can get annoying at times. Life there is much slower and they have it so easy but many Aussies don’t appreciate it, or else seem to find other things to stress themselves out with regardless.
Having come back to England and been back 11 years we are ready to go back to Adelaide. Neither country is perfect but we feel Australia is a better country to bring our kids up in. The UK is only good if you've got loads of money, and even if you have got loads of money what's the point of having a swimming pool in the garden if the weather is awful most of the time. I've just put our central heating on I'm so cold!!!!!
So we are behind the times and a little slow I feel from reading the posts, I came here 30 years ago and have not looked back, I know things were a little eaiser then PR was given before we left the UK and work was easy to find but I have been back to the UK many times (going in 3 weeks for a couple of months) but in general life is far better here, no crime and wider roads with less traffic and not to mention the climate. With emails and the net you are never far from anyone or any where so thoose of you thinking of going "home" give it a second thought if you stick with it you are far far better off.
I was interested in what you said about moving to another state. I guess it's a question we all ask ourselves when we are applying to come over. Indeed, that was a question I was asked during my interview at the Memorial Hospital when we were over in April this year. But If you could choose another state to live in (have you already?) which one would it be? and why? Given that everybody's perception of things and places are always gonna be different I appreciate that no place is going to be 'all things to all men (and women)' - I'm just interested in where you would go and why?
We are both committed to adelaide now having been over and met people and obtained jobs etc. But no doubt once we are out there we'll find out for ourselves when we visit places like Melbourne and Perth, Brisbane etc.
Just being nosey.
Originally Posted by alan smallman
If I wasn't committed to Adelaide (kids, good job, easy beach access, easy to escape the urban drudgery), I would head somewhere with a mild winter - namely, coastal Queensland. Prefer to be near to a city, so that would be Brisbane or Gold Coast - probably the latter because of great beaches and beach culture. I would avoid Sydney (cost, pressure, brashness), Melbourne (same and cold winters), Perth (isolated) and Darwin (wet season depression) as places to live. But they are all great places to visit at the right tiime!
Just my 2 cents worth!
Originally Posted by alan smallman
We would love to live in SE Queensland (Gold Coast)
It is Australia as we imagined it to be.
There is so much to see and do there and there are some lovely suburbs not too far from the theme parks, so you can take or leave the action if you want to.
There are more job opportunities and of course the winter is warmer.
There are down sides I appreciate, like humidity 2 months of the year and of course, more people means more traffic but it is a small price to pay, if it means you are happier.
We moved to Adelaide because we had to (visa restrictions)
We were supposed to do 2 years here and then we could have gone anywhere.
Due to sinking any spare cash into buying here and hubby never having continuous/decent paid work, we are stuck financially, therefore stuck here.
I always have the hope that one day we will get there.
I have heard of so many people moving states, since coming here and most of them have gone to Queensland and wished that they had done it sooner.
My advice to anyone that if you have doubts about the place, don't buy anywhere until you are really sure this is where you want to be.
I admire someone that I got speaking to a few months back, that had just arrived, they were so unhappy with living here and I suggested moving somewhere else. I told them that I loved Queensland. A month later, I saw them again and he told me that they had re-directed their containter to Q'land. His wife had some friends up there, so on a visit, she liked it so much that she had secured a job and a rental,they then moved 2 weeks later.
I will never love living here, but we will have to put up with it as anything is better than where we came from.
I need to ask you, was it just the job/pay situation that has put you off Adelaide. Can you say any other points. You mention another states and theme parks etc. Is there too little to do ? Got to admit the point above about stabbing doesnt sound good, but I guess worse things happen in Sydney.
Why Im atracted at the moment is House Prices, fast growing, up and coming, little traffic, relaxed lifestyle, not too much of a change in climate from the UK compared to other states, Low cost housing down the coast near the beach etc...
I have to admit the humidity in Sydney (And the flies) wolud put me off.
I value your comments J and all.
Hi, To answer your question, my wife & I (sound like the queen) have been living in Adelaide for 16 years, great place, love Australia, plenty of sun (some times too much) good job, nice house (better than the UK) great lifestyle, nice car (company) and for you poms in the UK, yes we do have a winter, it gets cold, windy and sometimes frost, you may think lucky bloke, but my wife & I go back to the UK every other year at Christmas and we love it, back with our friends & family at Christmas time and we find it harder & harder to leave, WHY, for some of us its hard to break those ties, family, friends, pubs, soccer (westham) so don't think Australia will be the answer to all your problems, its not mind.