Last edited by Toni; 13-04-2013 at 04:30 AM.
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It does seem unfair for just 2 months and quite a large amount but if that's what they signed up to......
Here and settled
I suppose I am of the older age bracket and I think that someone is asking a genuine question and to say to someone to "suck it up" sounds a bit dismissive to me. As I said I am an Aussie and it isn't fair to generalise in that way - it makes Aussies sound like they are all dismissive and I think quite a number of us are not.
I'm an Aussie too Kris and usually I would say challenge all the way but I think in this instance they are asking for the good will of the bank as they have been long and loyal customers. Unfortunately, banks are a business and loyalty does not come into it from their point of view.
I think if they wanted to proceed then they should look at asking for a reduced amount to pay.
Here and settled
Why not ask the question? I am sure as that an organisation that wants money from you is not able / likely to give impartial advice. And who knows, there might have been someone on PiA who has been in the same situation. As they say, there's no such thing as a silly question !
Away from that, Kris, you're going to have to toughen up there Princess! I think if you look round the forum there are comments made that do not reflect well on poms and might even support that old 'whinging pom' label but I know that that isn't me or all poms (ex or current). Just let it slide and go with the flow.....
(Am I bad?)
I have seen greeting cards in Adelaide with 'Toughen up princess', HTFU 'Harden the f*ck up' and 'Swallow some concrete and harden up' on ha ha, I don't think it is a dismissive comment, it is a tongue in cheek quip, in my experience within Aussie workplaces if you don't like the banter and people telling you straight you probably won't last very long over here!!
When we rented in Adelaide we renewed our lease for 12 months (this was the minimum they would accept) and after a couple of months found a house we wanted to buy. The terms and conditions of that rental agreement were if we left early we had to pay the rent until a new tenant was found and also I think (it was 5 years ago now) a percentage cost towards readvertising the property. I think we ended up paying the rental for about 6 or so weeks, plus our mortgage. It never crossed our mind to try and 'get out' of this agreement, WE agreed to the terms and conditions.
The view that this kind of terminology is acceptable in the workplace is quite incorrect. Perhaps in a factory floor or a building site. In my workplace which is a fairly large employer (Government) if someone said "toughen up princess or suck it up princess" they would be in the manager's office so quickly they wouldn't know what hit them.
The first I appreciate, the second? Nuhuh! No excuse for being rude and if someone is being obviously rude to me, don't then insult my intelligence by telling me it's banter or straight talking.
At that point my professionalism will kick in and I will cry...no, sorry, I mean if I can't sort it out myself I will (of course) go straight to my line manager for help. Same as I would in any country.
I think Kris is spot on, when someone asks for help or advice - particularly in a situation which could leave them open to personal criticism - comments like "suck it up" etc, without any emoticon or indication that the poster is being humorous, can just be negative or hurtful. And I think we're all nicer than that.
Personally, I think the best use of suck it up / toughen up or HTFU is on the soccer pitch
My rule of thumb is always......If i wouldn't say something to someone in "real life" i wouldn't say it on a forum