We live in North Haven which is quite close to both suburbs. I imagine, like most places they suffer with crime, but in all, both are lovely places to live. Beach is gorgeous, not too far away at all, and they have a good mix of schools....main state school is Ocean View College, Le Fevre High School not too far away either, another state school, which both my boys attended, and loved it! For shopping...North Haven has a small shopping parade, which is fine for everyday things, and Semaphore Road is close by too, which has a good mix of shops and restaurants. We've lived in the area for 4 years, and wouldn't move...people very friendly and a lovely place to be.