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    golden retriever puppy wanted,

    been looking on gumtree etc but can't seem to find one, anyone know of any???

    what usually happens is someone will say "if only you asked, my neighbour had 5 for sale last week!!!!"

    well, here's asking!!!!

    steve

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    Guest Damien

    Lisa's going cheap - she also comes with a litter of two young uns. I can supply curly blond wigs if you want. Dad can be viewed, he is desexed but still tries....:biglaugh:

     

    Damien

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    Guest guest3462

    Have you tried the RSB? They have retrivers and labradors for sale that are fully trained, immunised and chipped. They are usually around 16 months of age so well past the fussy chewy stage too! :-) Quite pricey (around $3000) but well worth it if you think of what you are getting and that you will be helping a worthy charity!

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    Guest kangomik

    The RSB have a 'Q' litter, crossed Lab and Retriever they are the most gorgeous pups ever, you would have to wait for some to fail the course.

    Or you could contact the RSB - Gilles plains, enquire about being a puppy educator, you can get a new puppy everytime you give one back !

     

    Good luck in finding a retriever, very clever dogs

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    Our Retriever has a few health issues. She is a pure bred, it has since been reported that purebreds are the ones that suffer more health problems, so the cross types are in fact better.

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    Guest Kazzarazza

    The Canine Assoc website for sales and breeder information is www.dogzonline.com.au

    There doesn't appear to be any listings for SA at the moment but you should certainly be able to get contact details for the reputable breeders.

     

    Alternatively, the SACA headquarters hold shows almost every weekend. Most of the breeders from around the state show their dogs there. They are at Cromwell Road, Kilburn. Tel 8349 4797. There own website is www.dogssa.com.au.

     

    Good luck, Kazza

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    Guest Kazzarazza
    Our Retriever has a few health issues. She is a pure bred, it has since been reported that purebreds are the ones that suffer more health problems, so the cross types are in fact better.

     

    That is quite an inflammatory statement and I think you will find the REPUTABLE, REGISTERED, purebred breeders would disagree.

     

    I am very sorry to hear that your dog has problems though.

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    They do disagree, because they don't like the facts. There have been many TV programs and papers written re this quite recently.

     

    The purebreds are in fact often inbred, hence the issues.

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    Guest Kazzarazza
    They do disagree, because they don't like the facts. There have been many TV programs and papers written re this quite recently.

     

    The purebreds are in fact often inbred, hence the issues.

     

    Not by the REPUTABLE REGISTERED ones they are not. There have been plenty of disgusting 'puppy farmers' on the TV recently.

     

    Any reputable breeder would take back any dog that had a health problem. There is a lot of money spent and research done introducing new lines for that very reason.

     

    You get what you pay for - dogs are no exception.

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    Don't fool yourself. As in humans animals have genetic issues, and if you go for a purebred you are more likely to get a dog that then has a problem.

     

    You sound like a breeder (your defensiveness to the facts). I could well get another purebred, but I am not as certain now I know the risks.

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    Guest Kazzarazza
    Don't fool yourself. As in humans animals have genetic issues, and if you go for a purebred you are more likely to get a dog that then has a problem.

     

    You sound like a breeder (your defensiveness to the facts). I could well get another purebred, but I am not as certain now I know the risks.

     

    No I'm not a breeder. But I am a dog owner and involved in the dog world. I stand by what I said. If the breeder is reputable, registered with the Canine Assoc, and the dog comes with papers, etc, etc, then you should have no problems.

     

    IF you do experience any problems, any decent breeder would want to know, would take the dog back, would offer any help they could. Some of these breeders are paying 10's of thousands for stud dogs to be brought in from overseas, just to introduce new lines. If the dog comes with papers you will see there should be no chance whatsoever of interbreeding.

     

    PS. Link to registered breeders in SA http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/breeders/golden-retriever.asp?state=SA&Submit=Go

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    I wouldn't want to give the dog back - she is part of the family. She suffers from fitting (luckily the medication has this under control) and has hip dysplasia. Two things cross breeds are less likely to suffer from.

     

    You can be a perfect parent but still have a 'feral' child after all.

     

    It's not (always) the breeders fault - and I am no way knocking any breeder.

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    Guest kangomik

    Used to be some good programmes in the UK about the kennel club and inter breeding. Unfortunately some are only in it for the money and others breed sickness into the dogs, ridgebacks, pugs being examples.

    So it does happen i am affraid.

     

    Dogs from the RSB as far as i am aware are checked for bloodlines and they have great access to dogs worldwide.

    Not all dogs are clever, but you can train them to do a certain amount, the stuff the rsb dogs learn is great but companion dogs learn a lot more commands i think and work very hard too.

    Train them from day one and it's a lot easier.

    My mother used the training techniques for her Daly back in the UK. "busy busy" works well but it rains a lot in the UK and the dog will only go on commannd so this means my mum has to stand in the garden with a brolly LOL!!!!!

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    Dogs from the RSB as far as i am aware are checked for bloodlines and they have great access to dogs worldwide.

     

    This probably proves Adelaidenow's point - despite having access to the best worldwide dogs for their breeding programme, there are still quite a fair percentage of RSB dogs that fail the programme because of hip displasia (sp?) and various other things that are recognised as being issues with both labs and retrievers. Buying fromn a reputable dealer is therefore not a 100% guarantee against health problems down the line.

     

    But hey, they're living things and part of the family - it's not like a piece of electronic equipment that can be sent back for replacement or repair!

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    I have 2 GSP's both of which I brought from a very reputable breeder. I also know lots of and have met lots of others who have brought puppies/dogs from her. Both of them come with papers !!!

     

    Unfortunatley one of my dogs has a thyroid problem which he will have for life. I told the breeder when I kenneled him with her for a few days but there is no way I would want to give him back, even for a full refund.

     

    Thank goodness for pet insurance !!

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    This probably proves Adelaidenow's point - despite having access to the best worldwide dogs for their breeding programme, there are still quite a fair percentage of RSB dogs that fail the programme because of hip displasia (sp?) and various other things that are recognised as being issues with both labs and retrievers. Buying fromn a reputable dealer is therefore not a 100% guarantee against health problems down the line.

     

    But hey, they're living things and part of the family - it's not like a piece of electronic equipment that can be sent back for replacement or repair!

     

    As the owner of a blacklab who we as a family loved and adored until he died.

     

    We did a lot of research when purchasing him and even though we checked hip scores of blood line going back 4 generations, this was no guarantee,and our lovely max was diagnosed as having severe hip displacia at six months.

     

    The next 6 mths were hell he had to be stopped from bouncing easier said than done with a daft lab so that at 6 mths later he had not damaged the left hip to much and was able to have his first op at 12mths this was to stabalise the better of his hips.

     

    There followed 2 years of normal life for our daft dog and then a complete hip replacement at 3 years on the other hip.

     

    Thank you pet insurance as bills would have topped 10 thousand pounds.

     

    I remember someone saying that we should have him put down but even if we didnt have insurance we would have found the money as they can fix the hips it just costs alot but what price do you put on a member of the family

    .As with all things you can get a genetic problem that no amount of careful planning can predict.So as long as you are aware that these problems exist in your breed and plan accordingly with insurance in case the worst happens and you are prepared for all the things you have to do as a responsible dog owner good luck

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    we recently had our 8 month old golden retriever put down due to hip displacure.he was pure bred and checked by our vet as a pup and told he was perfect.after 4 months he went downhill rapidly.the vet now tells us it was due to parents probably being overbred.so beware and choose carefully.

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    I don't normally say this, but maybe this thread should be closed? I dint mean to stir anything up, and it could get too depressing..hearing about loved pets being put down very young.

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    Thanks to the above people for posting their experiences. I can only imagine how heart-breaking it must have been for you. Retrievers are a fantastic breed, and if I were getting another dog, that's probably what I'd go for, given the choice. But once a dog is in the family, it's like one of your kids, and if one of your kids had health problems, you wouldn't send them back where they came from!

     

    Good luck with finding one Tina - don't be put off - I know Adelaidenow's dog and she is the most gorgeous, gentle, lovely dog, even with her problems, which as he said, are completely controlled with medication.

     

    Have you tried ringing up the local vets to ask if they know of any puppies coming up?

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    golden retriever puppy wanted,

    been looking on gumtree etc but can't seem to find one, anyone know of any???

    what usually happens is someone will say "if only you asked, my neighbour had 5 for sale last week!!!!"

    well, here's asking!!!!

    steve

    :notworthy:

     

    Yeah, I know I wrote a lot below. Thing is I foster for a dog rescue over here in the UK and see no end of dogs dumped, handed in or given over from puppy farms once they are finished with and know how bad things are for these dogs. Its awful and we should be responsible and buy from a trusted source to ensure these things don't continue. The amount of people who buy a puppy because its cute is insane. Only to find within days or weeks it becomes a hassle to walk, chews because it gets left and is bored or just has too much energy. Many buy unknowingly from puppy farms and are duped by ads in Free Ads or on places like Gumtree.

     

    Have you tried round the rescue centres? I know they often have older dogs needing a good home. Personally I'd say buying one of a place like Gumtree is very risky and I'd try to find a reputable breeder via other channels. If you are serious about getting a puppy, be serious about where you buy one from.

     

    Look for breeders who show or work their dogs, even small scale and go visit them, even if they don't have a litter due. See where they keep their dogs, the whelping area and so on. And don't settle on the first dog or litter you see or go on the waiting list for. Ensure you get papers and that if there are problems (parents in lab breeds etc should have their hips scored and only be bred from if the results are good and therefore this should help reduce the risk of hip problems in pups as they mature but its not a definate).

     

    You ideally want to go on a wait list for a pup from a litter so you can see ALL the pups when you go to choose which one you want and not go see them when they are actually old enough to go to new homes as often there will only be one or two left and those are usually not the better ones in the litter. Also going to see them like that, when only one or two left results in an impulse buy. Give yourself more choice by seeing an entire litter and having more than a couple of pups to choose from, then having a few weeks wait till its old enough for you to go collect and bring home.

     

    Perhaps go via the Australian Kennel Club (or equivalent) website and find the breed rep on there and call them to ask regarding a good breeder or two.

     

    Buying one from Gumtree means it probably comes from a puppy farm and would simply be delivered to a persons house who is fronting for the farm. In which case you would be buying a pup who has probably never seen daylight or had contact with people and could come with a myriad of health and socialising problems.

     

    Read this site for more info on the puppy farm problem

     

    Help us close puppy factories (click on the READ MORE for the menu of info)

     

    It has an info link on where to buy a puppy and tells you where to look. It also points out any decent breeder will ask you questions about your situation and set up to ensure you have things in place for taking on a puppy.

     

    FWIW we've been on a wait list for a puppy from a breeder over here (whippet) for over 6 months as I feel they are great breeders, don't over breed and only have one litter every couple of years. Plus their dogs are outstanding breed types and they have a great reputation. A pup from them will cost us about £150-200 more than from a lesser breeder but I know I am getting what I pay for plus insurance till the pup is 16 weeks old etc.

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    I don't normally say this, but maybe this thread should be closed? I dint mean to stir anything up, and it could get too depressing..hearing about loved pets being put down very young.

     

    I don't think it needs locking. Just more a case about getting back on topic to the OP :)

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    Guest Nick11

    Give me a rescued mutt any day of the week.

    Had 5 in the last 20 years......god luv every one of them.

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    Thanks for all the advice and I'm sorry this has been upsetting for some xx

     

    I have had dogs in the past purebreed rotties and a huskey (years ago) all animals have there probs sadly:sad:. We thought a retriever would be ideal for our son who has Aspergers as he seems to like that breed, he doesn't like dark colour dogs. We have made enquiries with the gulde dogs as we have found out they have dogs for children who have Autism just a bit scared how much that will cost :embarrassed:.

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