Diane

Do we get ripped off here more than elsewhere in Oz?

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    As the title says really - was chatting to a couple of backpackers yesterday who are visiting Adelaide, after previously being in Melbourne, Perth, and Brisbane ... and they were saying how much more expensive everything (I guess they meant food and drink mainly) is here in Adelaide than in Melbourne and Brisbane.

     

    Perth apparently is even worse but there are a lot of much higher earners there because of the mines (again, we've got mines here too - why don't we have such overinflated salaries? Apart from in Coober Pedy I guess...)

     

    I keep rationalising to my visiting parents that they think stuff here is particularly expensive now because they are converting at a 1.38 rate, whereas I convert wages and costs at 2.5 to the pound, and I know that the high dollar makes things very pricey here nowadays to anyone who's had to convert from their european currency, but now I wonder if we in sleepy Adelaide are getting even a worse deal! How comes Melbourne is cheaper? Do we have a premium put on everything because Adelaide has nicer weather and people??

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    I was reading an article yesterday where the comparison was between Melbourne and Perth saying that visitors to Melbourne from Perth for recent sporting events were amazed that eating out and drinks were considerably cheaper in Melbourne (2/3 the cost). No mention of Adelaide particularly but then my nephew and girlfriend moved to Melbourne from Adelaide and are constantly griping about how much more expensive it is to rent there than in Adelaide, so I suppose it balances out. The same article I mentioned before said that the inflated house prices in Perth (mainly due to cashed up Brits paying silly prices 5-10 years ago) are now starting to fall dramatically (despite the mining effect) and I know of some apartments on the Gold Coast where 3 years ago people bought off-the-plan for $800k and are now having to sell for $400. I suppose that in Adelaide things are a little more 'stable' and just gradually increase in price year on year so we don't notice until we think about it.

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    I was reading an article yesterday where the comparison was between Melbourne and Perth saying that visitors to Melbourne from Perth for recent sporting events were amazed that eating out and drinks were considerably cheaper in Melbourne (2/3 the cost). No mention of Adelaide particularly but then my nephew and girlfriend moved to Melbourne from Adelaide and are constantly griping about how much more expensive it is to rent there than in Adelaide, so I suppose it balances out. The same article I mentioned before said that the inflated house prices in Perth (mainly due to cashed up Brits paying silly prices 5-10 years ago) are now starting to fall dramatically (despite the mining effect) and I know of some apartments on the Gold Coast where 3 years ago people bought off-the-plan for $800k and are now having to sell for $400. I suppose that in Adelaide things are a little more 'stable' and just gradually increase in price year on year so we don't notice until we think about it.

     

    Can you dig out that article? Would be worth a look.

     

    The GC is a basket case (as I reckon anyone is who decides to 'invest' there).

     

    Jim

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    If your willing to pay the cost of something your not being ripped of as such.

    Chris.

     

    I agree up to a point, but it was basic staples they were talking about - a loaf of bread, a pint (sorry litre!) of milk, a pint (or whatever the measure is!) of beer.... for that sort of stuff, you don't really have a huge choice (well, maybe for the beer, which is why my OH brews his own!)

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    Can you dig out that article? Would be worth a look.

     

    The GC is a basket case (as I reckon anyone is who decides to 'invest' there).

     

    Jim

     

    so now is the best time to invest there if the prices are falling big time.

     

    stevo

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    As a country I would think your all being ripped off ,the fact that the oz dollar is so high ,should mean that any imported goods you buy should be cheaper ,I'm still waiting for anyone on here to tell me they have bought something that's dropped in price over the last 5 years .

     

     

    Kev

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    If your willing to pay the cost of something your not being ripped of as such.

    Chris.

     

    We are on holiday in France some people in the same hotel as us have paid 3 times what we paid ,but because they were willing to pay for it they haven't been ripped off ,not in my world they have been done.

    If you need to buy something knowing it's cheaper somewhere else and I don't mean a few dollars then the same applies ,the fact you may need to travel to collect it or have it posted is wrong ,being ripped off is being ripped off end of story ,

     

     

    Kev.

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    I feel overall that it is a "Rip Off" here.It's just the price you have to pay to live here.Now't we can do about it,so just get on with it.We get by OK,life can be really great here on a Shoestring.Let's not forget the Aussies are also feeling the pinch.I work with many who are the salt of the earth,work like Trojans week in,week out and have precious little,BUT their integrity is intact and they live in a wonderful place where options are available if you really try.:smile:No Where is Utopia.

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    I feel overall that it is a "Rip Off" here.It's just the price you have to pay to live here.Now't we can do about it,so just get on with it.We get by OK,life can be really great here on a Shoestring.Let's not forget the Aussies are also feeling the pinch.I work with many who are the salt of the earth,work like Trojans week in,week out and have precious little,BUT their integrity is intact and they live in a wonderful place where options are available if you really try.:smile:No Where is Utopia.

     

     

    Wot she said...........................................:notworthy::notworthy:

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    Firstly things have dropped in price, the dollars you pay are relatively less in the terms of how much you earn etc. For example my first ticket back to the UK cost me $1800 in 1986 , ticket today anywhere from this to $2500, but I earn triple what nurses were paid then. Washing machine bought in 1992 seemed so expensive at $500, washing machine with more folderols and bing on it cost $800 last year. I don't think we are ripped off here. We have a much smaller population from which to raise the revenue to have all the services/ frills needed for a First World Life Style. We are a long way from large populations where goods can be produced cheaply and flogged onto us as quickly as in say Europe. Longer shipping time increases shipping costs. Also each state has to run its self and local taxes etc raise revenue. So while in QLD the stamp duty is much less than here they will be taxed higher on something else. They also have a bigger population than SA.

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    Nearly all the stock I sell is cheaper than it was 5 years ago, most things by 25%.

     

    Having said that, even though the cost of goods my be cheaper, freight, fuel surcharges etc have gone up.

     

    The cost of everyday things is meaning we all have less 'spare' money, hence why houses are taking longer to sell, especially at the top end. I think prices will drop even more in the next year. we are all struggling to live, so buying non essentials and big investments like houses are on hold.

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    Agreed, all of the above adelaidenow & Rachiegarlo :notworthy:

     

    Wife was thinking of going to work full time . . . :shocked: but is not sure.

    Nice to have the choice i say !

     

    Looking back on our incoming and outgoings there are a number of things that we could 'offload' if we wanted

     

    Cable TV for one, crikey even the kids who are 18 & 21, now there's an idea.

    2 of us where back 'home' a few months back and the missus tells me how the utilities bills are considerably less in the last quarter, mmmmm, put up the kids board money :skeptical::idea:

     

    Oh that's right $40 a month, food bed, breakfast, cooking & cleaning. Bargain.

     

     

    I'm more annoyed at the threshold they have set for the medicare / private health cover.

    If you earn $86,000 or more (individually) you are considered wealthy and will get less of a rebate.

     

    WTF :arghh: What about the battlers that work overtime to get the money for general living or, god forbid, any of lifes little extra's ?

     

     

    Generally we should not miss the point from the post above . . . . 'spare' money is a luxury compared to NO money.

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    Firstly things have dropped in price, the dollars you pay are relatively less in the terms of how much you earn etc. For example my first ticket back to the UK cost me $1800 in 1986 , ticket today anywhere from this to $2500, but I earn triple what nurses were paid then. Washing machine bought in 1992 seemed so expensive at $500, washing machine with more folderols and bing on it cost $800 last year. I don't think we are ripped off here. We have a much smaller population from which to raise the revenue to have all the services/ frills needed for a First World Life Style. We are a long way from large populations where goods can be produced cheaply and flogged onto us as quickly as in say Europe. Longer shipping time increases shipping costs. Also each state has to run its self and local taxes etc raise revenue. So while in QLD the stamp duty is much less than here they will be taxed higher on something else. They also have a bigger population than SA.

     

    I don't have a problem with differences between countries, or continents, and you're dead right about the population size here compared to in Britain (one the best things about Australia I reckon!), but I wasn't sure why Melbourne food prices should be that much lower than Adelaide's. I hadn't considered the different state taxes and things though so perhaps that's the reason. Still find it amazing that there is so much variation in laws between the states! Even down to different ages of consent etc!!

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    Guest The Dimmocks

    My Auntie lives in Melbourne and she came over to visit us at Christmas. I asked her if the price of food and clothes were the same and she said there was no difference. All she kept on about was how much cheaper the rent and house prices were here compared to there.

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    My Auntie lives in Melbourne and she came over to visit us at Christmas. I asked her if the price of food and clothes were the same and she said there was no difference. All she kept on about was how much cheaper the rent and house prices were here compared to there.

     

    Funny i didn't write that part but yes i agree with your aunty. :wink:

     

    Was in melbourne twice last year, Avalon Airshow and the Port Adelaide v Hawthorn 165 point debacle (works trip) and both times we dined in restaurants in the centre of melbourne and on the banks of the yarra, no real difference in the prices there as the company credit card didn't look any different or outlandish ?

    Casino was big but lacked style, long gone are the days of smartly dressed people only getting in, thongs shorts and t-shirts seemed to be acceptable :wacko:

     

     

    Didn't look at the housing side though.

     

    Will be back there again in a few months, hopefully to see AU play in the finals :skeptical::nah:

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