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I've been thinking about it for a while. They look into cases over 12 months old
Please submit it anonymously if one don't want their name. This would be your slight contribution. We are doing things in very transparent and legitimate manner. Hope things are easy for all of us.

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2 hours ago, Russki said:

I've been thinking about it for a while. They look into cases over 12 months old 🙂

Many of us here has cases over 12 months let's all contact them anonymously.

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23 hours ago, Russki said:

You've done everything correctly,  no need to do anything else, mate.  All good, they will see your new AFP!  😎😊

Thanks Again Russki.

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Thank u so much for all the effort you are all putting towards getting immigration to work. I called immi again with the hope of getting my daughter born January 2018 added to my  application lodged 15months ago as my file still shows received 9months after filling form 1022.sadly all I got from them was a directive to apply for 489 for my daughter.This is so depressing 

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It seems until 15 May visa process Ives’s will be slow due to election. 

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10 hours ago, 8jan said:

Thank u so much for all the effort you are all putting towards getting immigration to work. I called immi again with the hope of getting my daughter born January 2018 added to my  application lodged 15months ago as my file still shows received 9months after filling form 1022.sadly all I got from them was a directive to apply for 489 for my daughter.This is so depressing 

Are you sure? Check my timeline below. I added form 1022 few days ago, my newborn has been granted 489 and bridging visa A already.

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Just now, peace_at_heart said:

Are you sure? Check my timeline below. I added form 1022 few days ago, my newborn has been granted 489 and bridging visa A already.

@8jan , please look into your account. it's really surprising if they said that.

When we update them using form 1022 they auto generated 489 and bridging visa for baby.

Have you updated passport details as well ?

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10 hours ago, 8jan said:

Thank u so much for all the effort you are all putting towards getting immigration to work. I called immi again with the hope of getting my daughter born January 2018 added to my  application lodged 15months ago as my file still shows received 9months after filling form 1022.sadly all I got from them was a directive to apply for 489 for my daughter.This is so depressing 

Something does not ring true, they have to issue 489 and BVA to the baby by default. 🤔 

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14 hours ago, Russki said:

I've been thinking about it for a while. They look into cases over 12 months old 🙂

Hi Russki,

I have go ahead and filed the complaint.

Crux of the argument with the Immigration Department should be "No, the visa processing is NOT within the time frame department had mentioned when I filed the application"

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27 minutes ago, peace_at_heart said:

Hi Russki,

I have go ahead and filed the complaint.

Crux of the argument with the Immigration Department should be "No, the visa processing is NOT within the time frame department had mentioned when I filed the application"

It is very clear that Australia is treating us unfairly. We have right to complain. Our whole career is on risk. We are not a slave where we have to stay in one state for 2 years and then 1.5 years for file processing time. This is our choice to live in this country it doesn’t mean they treat us like this. This is sad. Guys once we receive our citizenship we should Never vote for this gov. This is discrimination and racism. 

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Hi all, 

I'm setting up a whatsapp group where we can plan strategies, compose letters, have them proofread and signed, do a social media campaign and whatever else we could do to pull it off.

The current thread is not suitable for that because people are asking, sharing various others things that are not related to the campaign.  

If you want to be a part of it, send me your whatsapp numbers on 0 4 1 2 2 9 9 7 6 8 .  Please also encourage other related (only) people to join the cause. More people will allow us to build more pressure on authorities.

The group will be moderated strictly (So need few admins) and it will be ensured that all group members will adhere to the purpose of the cause. 

Remember, there is a high possibility that you'll be greeted by a further extended waiting period anytime you login to your immi account. We won't be able to do anything when they'll make it 24-25 months if we don't do it now. 

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13 minutes ago, Angry Coder said:

Hi all, 

I'm setting up a whatsapp group where we can plan strategies, compose letters, have them proofread and signed, do a social media campaign and whatever else we could do to pull it off.

The current thread is not suitable for that because people are asking, sharing various others things that are not related to the campaign.  

If you want to be a part of it, send me your whatsapp numbers on 0 4 1 2 2 9 9 7 6 8 .  Please also encourage other related (only) people to join the cause. More people will allow us to build more pressure on authorities.

The group will be moderated strictly (So need few admins) and it will be ensured that all group members will adhere to the purpose of the cause. 

Remember, there is a high possibility that you'll be greeted by a further extended waiting period anytime you login to your immi account. We won't be able to do anything when they'll make it 24-25 months if we don't do it now. 

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It's nice all initiatives (tweet, FB, media etc) to put pressure on them, but I reckon it will make few or nil effect.

We have 2 options, sit and wait or a class action. A lawsuit against them, moved by the group, to repair the damages caused by their negligence. The main argument is; we made our decision to immigrate to Australia based on a set of conditions informed by the government at that time (2-3 years ago). They are not compliant with their side of the agreement which is causing pain, stress and financial problems.

I have no intention to receive any financial compensation for it, but a real court case in a Federal court will put real pressure on them. We made a deal with Australian government 2-3 years ago, they need to honor their part.

It's easy for us to demonstrate the extra cost we are incurring due their delay. Again, I don't care about receiving anything back, it's just to put pressure on the most sensitive organ of the human body, the pockets.

There is a risk. They may say; 'ok, you want us to assess your application? fine, we reject all. finished'.

But this risk is also present when we put pressure through media etc....

Opinions???

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1 hour ago, George said:

It's nice all initiatives (tweet, FB, media etc) to put pressure on them, but I reckon it will make few or nil effect.

We have 2 options, sit and wait or a class action. A lawsuit against them, moved by the group, to repair the damages caused by their negligence. The main argument is; we made our decision to immigrate to Australia based on a set of conditions informed by the government at that time (2-3 years ago). They are not compliant with their side of the agreement which is causing pain, stress and financial problems.

I have no intention to receive any financial compensation for it, but a real court case in a Federal court will put real pressure on them. We made a deal with Australian government 2-3 years ago, they need to honor their part.

It's easy for us to demonstrate the extra cost we are incurring due their delay. Again, I don't care about receiving anything back, it's just to put pressure on the most sensitive organ of the human body, the pockets.

There is a risk. They may say; 'ok, you want us to assess your application? fine, we reject all. finished'.

But this risk is also present when we put pressure through media etc....

Opinions???

I have already looked into this option @George. 🙂 Good idea, but...

I know the lawyer even who is prepared to file a case for us in federal Court, he is a top-notch lawyer and we are almost guaranteed to win the case. However, each of us have to pay up to $7000 to start the ball rolling. We will get this money back in case of success, but we may not. Are you guys prepared to do this??? I don't have this money spare, sure enough. 

But good idea, I agree. And I looked into the law side of thisng, we can claim "unreasonable amount of time to take a decision " in court, you can read on it: Section 7(1) of the Administrative Decision (Judicial Review) Act 19977 (ADJR Act). 

And no, they will not reject our applications if we take a class action, because they know that they will be under scrutiny if they do. 😉 

As for the financial compensation stemming from defective administration, read this:

https://migrationalliance.com.au/home/complain-about-a-diac-officer.html

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Russki: I think we can make donation for this. Like making a case to reduce time frame for all. What do you think?

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6 minutes ago, Vinh said:

Russki: I think we can make donation for this. Like making a case to reduce time frame for all. What do you think?

I need to ask the lawyer again to make sure I understood correctly about the payment for class action. 🙂 I may have got it wrong.

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6 minutes ago, Russki said:

I need to ask the lawyer again to make sure I understood correctly about the payment for class action. 🙂 I may have got it wrong.

Yes, Russki, we probably setup a GoFundMe page to get this lawsuit going.

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6 minutes ago, Russki said:

I have already looked into this option @George. 🙂 Good idea, but...

I know the lawyer even who is prepared to file a case for us in federal Court, he is a top-notch lawyer and we are almost guaranteed to win the case. However, each of us have to pay up to $7000 to start the ball rolling. We will get this money back in case of success, but we may not. Are you guys prepared to do this??? I don't have this money spare, sure enough. 

But good idea, I agree. And I looked into the law side of thisng, we can claim "unreasonable amount of time to take a decision " reason in court, you can read on it: Section 7(1) of the Administrative Decision (Judicial Review) Act 19977 (ADJR Act). 

And no, they will not reject our applications if we take a class action, because they know that they will be under scrutiny if they do. 😉 

As for the financial compensation stemming from defective administration, read this:

https://migrationalliance.com.au/home/complain-about-a-diac-officer.html

You're a legend.

I believe this $7k is mostly related with the solicitor/lawyer fees (plus accountants and other specialists to build up the case). The court fees are not that high. Can you confirm this with the lawyer?

If the $7k is mostly for the lawyer team, we shall have a reduction per person if we have several applicants under the same claim.

Discuss with him the possibility to increase his/her success fee and reduce the initial cost. (They can keep 100% of what he/she recuperates in excess of the the $7k)

If I can have 100% guarantee my 887 will be granted in one month, I pay the $7k now (not saying I have it spare, but it's a valid sacrifice).

 

 

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I am in support of this initiative and happy to contribute to it's success.

They taking us for granted and holding our lives down for longer than necessary. 

 

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1 minute ago, George said:

You're a legend.

I believe this $7k is mostly related with the solicitor/lawyer fees (plus accountants and other specialists to build up the case). The court fees are not that high. Can you confirm this with the lawyer?

If the $7k is mostly for the lawyer team, we shall have a reduction per person if we have several applicants under the same claim.

Discuss with him the possibility to increase his/her success fee and reduce the initial cost. (They can keep 100% of what he/she recuperates in excess of the the $7k)

If I can have 100% guarantee my 887 will be granted in one month, I pay the $7k now (not saying I have it spare, but it's a valid sacrifice).

I can certainly send a query to the lawyer and ask about fees, time it will take, our role in it, what is involved. 🙂

But in the first instance, we should try ombudsman complaints. If we do it simultaneously, in bulk, this should have some effect, you'd think? let's decide on the date/week and do it all together. See what happens. Just remember that the case should already have a history of complaints to the Department first. 

So if your case is over 12 months old and you already complaint 3 times to the Department, you can proceed with the complaint to Ombudsman. 

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4 minutes ago, April guy said:

I am in support of this initiative and happy to contribute to it's success.

They taking us for granted and holding our lives down for longer than necessary. 

 

Me too 🙂

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Lets do it this weekend. Even mine is less than 12m. I will still do it. ;)))

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1 minute ago, Russki said:

I can certainly send a query to the lawyer and ask about fees, time it will take, our role in it, what is involved. 🙂

But in the first instance, we should try ombudsman complaints. If we do it simultaneously, in bulk, this should have some effect, you'd think? let's decide on the date/week and do it all together. See what happens. Just remember that the case should already have a history of complaints to the Department first. 

So if your case is over 12 months old and you already complaint 3 times to the Department, you can proceed with the complaint to Ombudsman. 

Just  check the fees but I am sure it will be higher than 7k. Secondly we can get free lawyer from gov aren’t we ? 

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For someone less than 12 months and not so many complains, we can do anonymously.

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14 Months I've been held hostage to this system, waiting for something to happen in regards to 489 - 887 visa, now struggling to find work because who's going to employ someone that's in "no mans land"? Bridging Visa.

Like most people on here Id never of gone for the 489 what a joke, I may have to leave before i get an answer due to financial reasons.

The 489 should be called the never ending answer visa .......this would be way more honest i think.

I spoke to an ex employee 2 weeks ago who worked for immigration here in Adelaide, she said they will only grant a fixed amount of 887's a month and are closely

controlled by Canberra. Due to lack of staff and finacial input from the government, im not sure complaints about the department will do anything.

Im all up for it and count me in but realistically is it going to make any difference?. I guess we can try but il probably be doing it from the uk .......:( 

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