thegreggs

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    hi guys

     

    my mum is looking to emigrate with us in the next 12 months, she has spoken to quite a few migration agents and has been told she can apply for a long term temporary business class visa because of her age (53) .

    does anyone know if this visa is a good option for her

    also does anyone know how easy it is to get PR on the visa

    if anyone has been on this visa any comments would be welcome

     

    thanks

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    Guest graandjac

    :)I recon seeing as most of the good agents will give you free advice , give a few more a call and see if all the info you gather heads in the same direction. Good luck cheers Graham

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    :biglaugh:Bloody ell Pete thats not a post is a book....lol cheers Graham

     

     

    Thats why I just put the link. :biglaugh::biglaugh:

     

    If you type in 'parent visa' into the search you will see loads of advice on this subject.

     

    Pete

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    hi guys

     

    my mum is looking to emigrate with us in the next 12 months, she has spoken to quite a few migration agents and has been told she can apply for a long term temporary business class visa because of her age (53) .

    does anyone know if this visa is a good option for her

    also does anyone know how easy it is to get PR on the visa

    if anyone has been on this visa any comments would be welcome

     

    thanks

     

    Hello the greggs

     

    The do-ability of Mum being able to get PR in Oz in her own right via her skills would depend on a number of factors.

     

    1. I gather that Mum has a continuous 5 years of post qualification experience as an NVQ Level 4 Childcare Co-ordinator. Would she be able to get a positive skills assessment in this field, please?

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/c/child-care-coordinator-1295-11.htm

     

    I don't know whether a Level 4 is the equivalent of an Australian bachelor degree.

     

    2. I take it you all intend to move to Adelaide? If so, that would be good because the whole of South Australia counts as "regional Australia." This would make Mum eligible for an RSMS visa, potentially, for which an age exemption is a possibility:

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/rsms/exemptions.htm

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/rsms/index.htm

     

    I'm not a migration agent. I'm merely one of the moderators on another forum and so I keep a beady eye on the advice which Agents give people, plus I have a good memory! I've heard it would be easier to get an RSMS subclass 857 visa for someone of your Mum's age than, say, to get an ENS subclass 856 visa:

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/ens/exemptions.htm

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/ens/index.htm

     

     

    The difference is that the age eligibility uses "and" for the 856 but it clearly gives the and/or option with the 857, making the criteria quite a bit less stringent. For either visa, Mum also needs to study Booklet 5, which is here:

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books5.htm

     

    Nonetheless, it would NOT be in Mum's best interests not to get a positive skills assessment pronto, because she is going to be 54 or close to it by the time she gets to Oz. It would not be easy to get PR for her once she has turned 55. Therefore if she can get a positive skills assessment now, she might well be able to negotiate immediate PR for herself under the RSMS scheme (especially in SA where the Regional Certifying Bodies are said to be more generous than in some other parts of Oz.) That would be her best option if at all possible.

     

    If Mum is offered a 457 visa, the trick is to explain the problem with its being difficult to get PR once one is 55 or over, and ask the employer whether he would consider an immediate RSMS visa instead.

     

    An RSMS visa is less onerous from the employer's point of view than 457 visa, which is a handy negotiating carrot. Stress this if need be because most Australian employers are unaware that a 457 visa is not in their own best interests any more than it is in the employee's best interests. Please see Page 8 of Booklet 11 and compare it with the employer's obligations in Booklet 5:

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books11.htm

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/sbs/index.htm

     

    3. Did the person who told you breezily that a 457 visa would be possible for Mum also tell you where an employer who could meet all of the employer's end of the criteria is to be found? None of these ideas are easy without the willing and criteria-compliant employer.

     

    Therefore the fall-back position for Mum is as follows!

     

    Would she be able to meet the Balance of Family Test for Parent migration?

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/family/parent-outside.htm

     

    http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/books3.htm

     

    If Mum would be able to qualify for a Parent or Contributory Parent visa, obviously there isn't too much to worry about with trying to get Mum an RSMS visa instead of a 457, because Parent migration provides PR for the parent in any case.

     

    Parent migration is a subject dear to my heart because my own mother now lives in Perth, WA, on a Contributory Parent subclass 143 visa, so I am passionate about helping other Parents and their children on this topic!

     

    I know I've given you a huge amount of links etc to consider, but Australian Immigration Law is vastly more complex than airy assurances from Migration Agents would have one believe!

     

    Best wishes

     

    Gill

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