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21 hours ago, S0189 said:

hi everyone

Can we apply for 887 while my wife is still in offshore due to obvious reasons... I know the DHA have said we can do this but my agent says that they cant add my wife's name yet. 

Is there anyone who has applied while secondary applicant is in off shore.??? 

Much appreciated

 

Yes, you can apply for your 887 visa first and apply through the form 1436. I can't believe that your agent doesn't have this basic knowledge. 

The form 1436 is really common sense, let us to add additional applicant after lodging the visa application. It is not applicable for all the subclass visa, but fortunately for 887 yes, you can. 

I recommend you to change the agent or just apply by yourself. Good luck 

3 minutes ago, Vatas said:

Hi all,

Nice to meet you all. I'm new to this forum and find this forum extremely helpful.

Just wondering what are people's experiences around applying when they went overseas for less than 28 days (4 weeks) per trip but totalling more than 28 days a year.

I waited for a little over a month before applying, but I'm concerned that because my total time overseas per year exceeds the allowed 4-weeks leave time, will that count against my time registered as a resident? Or days overseas only counted if the trip exceeds 4 weeks?

Cheers!

Were you onshore or offshore when you grant 489 visa?

6 minutes ago, JayKrish said:

Should I do "Notification of Incorrect Answer" form or should I re-submit my Form 80?

Yes, it is very simple and straight forward. Just submit the notification of incorrect answer form, you won't be able to resubmit the form 80. 

1 hour ago, TAS887 said:

check at the bottom of the image it says both applications 

 

Yes, that's why it is completely misunderstanding  

1 hour ago, OSCAR said:

It is mentioned in the bottom that,  the number include both Primary and secondary applicants.

So the calculations are reasonable.

No, you are still wrong. There are many people misunderstand the explanation of the note1 same as you. The figure is already included both primary and secondary applicants. 

Which means, the figure is already added up including primary and secondary applicants. 

887 visa application is basically lodged at the same time, so regardless of the number of applicants included in the application, the total number is just 1 application. 

The application number is not calculated separately added up primary application and secondary application. It is just one application

It's not a reasonable calculation at all :D, rather, it's just a calculation with wishful thinking  

Anyway, about 600-700 applications were cleared within a week with 9-10 case officers based on the data between May and June. 

And still seems like over a few hundred applications are cleared weekly basis, so I assume that all the left over applications will be cleared in very sooner future if immigration keep maintaining the processing speed continuously. 

Finger cross and I can't wait to see the applicants of June / July 2020 grant news  

4 hours ago, TAS887 said:

Including primary and Secondary application if we take an average of 3 Member per Application then  this should be approx total files submitted every month

Jan 135

Feb 161

Mar 196

Apr 177

May 207

 

Regardless of the number of applicants either primary or secondary, the given figure from the immigration is indicating the total application number received, so it doesn't make any sense of your calculation method

Anyway, it still good news to see the fast grant in these days.  

1 minute ago, DVR said:

Has anyone seen any grants for Feb or March 2020 ? 

You will be able to see by next week.

3 hours ago, John akhil said:

Hi all

 

I was an onshore 489 applicant. I got bridging visa grant(489) on Jan 8, 2018, and grant on September 2018

Can I count my residency for 887 from Jan 8 2018( bridging grant while on postgraduate visa).

Few people told I can 

I will ask the agent too. 

Any thoughts 

You can count your residency since the time you spent as bridging visa A was in effective too, but make sure there is another requirement to apply for 887 visa, which is holding 489 visa at least for 2 years. 

(I assume that your bridging visa A of 489 visa was in effect after the postgraduate visa was expired, so the time between the postgraduate visa expired and 489 visa grant are eligible to count toward your residency prove.  

Cheers

4 hours ago, alsk said:

I did see in DHA website, one of the condition to prove functional English is "you completed a degree, a higher degree, a diploma or a trade certificate in an institution in or outside Australia that required at least two years of full-time study and all instructions were in English"

I am wondering why people are taking IELTS or PTE exam again. Here is the link https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-support/meeting-our-requirements/english-language/functional-english

The answer is very simple, it is because not everyone studied in Australia.

There are many people who doesn't have any qualification in and outside of Australia or only have a qualification from their native country which has non-English background. 

7 hours ago, Hanna said:

I get what you’re saying, but if you go on the same page and click on the level you can see that all levels above are 3 years valid. You need to prove MINIMUM functional English (the website clearly states “AT LEAST functional English” and if you click further it sends you to the “English Language” page with all levels (instead of directly to functional). It is misleading, but in practice it would be a bit silly that a person with Superior English and living and working in Australia for 2+ years needs to provide a proof of Functional English although having passed a higher skill test before.

There are lots of information which may mislead innocent people to make a mistake and it eventually causes unexpected delay on their visa processing time. 

Anyway, I can see some recent postings people submit the letter from their employer they have more than functional English (Not sure if it’s relevant or not) 

You can probably seek help from these people about the letter formula in case you don’t have relevant study certificate nor want to sit on the exam again. 

Good luck 

1 hour ago, Hanna said:

Actually I found out that it’s only for people who are proving Functional English which is IELTS 4.5 but if your level is superior or other high level English then you can take it 3 years prior 887 lodgement

No.. you still misunderstand about the legislation. No matter what score you get, it's not important. In order to prove the functional English, your English test must be conducted within 12 months before lodging the 887 visa. I will give you the more explanation if you provide me the link you get the information source. 

Please remember 887 visa requires 'functional English', not the other type of English requirement. 

Please refer to the below link. 

1) Migration act https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2014L01668

2) Immi website https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-support/meeting-our-requirements/english-language/functional-english

It's clearly representing that your English test must be conducted within 12 months.

Don't just read the information about the superior or any other English requirement as it is not relevant to the 887 visa. 

To make it clear, I will give you the example.

If you get 9.0 on IELTS over 1 year before you lodge the 887 visa, you need to take the test again unless you have any alternatives to prove functional English.

If you get 4.5 on IELTS within 1 year before you lodge the 887 visa, you can use this test result as the functional English prove. 

Wish it helps you to understand about the functional English properly

On 7/3/2020 at 2:25 PM, STUTI said:

I didn't study in Australia but i studied in  London(United kingdom) . I did my Chartered Accountancy there . Will this provide proof of Functional English as England is an English speaking country  ? Furthermore, I applied 887 visa in January 2020 so only my husband  sat for the English test( as he is a dependent/ secondary applicant )  but i haven't got any English test within the last 3 years. What would you suggest me to do ?

 

According to the immi website or migration Act, the functional English is replaced so long as ' you completed a degree, a higher degree, a diploma or a trade certificate in an institution in or outside Australia that required at least two years of full-time study and all instructions were in English ' 

So, If you studied more than 2 years in UK, it is more than enough to meet the functional English requirement. Cheers 

On 7/3/2020 at 2:33 PM, Hanna said:

Hi, just wondering where is this information provided? Anywhere on the official websites? Thanks in advance.

Hi, please refer to the migration act or immi website, it's clearly written about all the details I wrote. 

3 minutes ago, bapganesha said:

Is it 1-year or 2 years full-time study in Australia? DoHA states it as 1-year full time study in Australia

It's one year as full-time student, not 2 years. 

31 minutes ago, TAS887 said:

The rule has changed for last 1 month.

for Primary applicant.

they can show 2 year Australian study 

or PET IELTS result should be valid at time of applying 887 (it s okay if it expires while you wait for the visa) . Validity is 3 years. 

 

Hi, I just want to correct your advice. The functional English must be conducted within 12 months prior to lodge the 887 visa regardless of the test validity. 

Also, it's not 2 years full-time study, just one year is enough for functional English prove.

14 minutes ago, Pedro said:

Hi all,

I applied and uploaded all documents including 2 years residence details and 1 year of working. But, I received a request massage to provide residence evidence and work evidence with in 28days? is any one receved such? Can any one help with an idea? It will be great help. 

Thanks heaps 

Good luck!

Pedro

If you provide not enough documents for both residential or work requirements, it's commonly requested by CO. What sort of supporting documents did you submit it? 

You can see why the CO request you to provide more documents from the attached file in the email. 

22 minutes ago, sislam said:

looking for it in Mygov.......where is that ...PAYG means what I have no idea ...any suggestions or instruction 

Just print out and scan of the income statement, it works out as PAYG summary. 

14 hours ago, MMH said:

I didn't expected the department to start processing my application at least until Nov this year. i just got to this forum last week and realised the change in processing speed as the Immi site is still showing 20-24 month processing time. I did uploaded my IELTS result that was over three years prior to the date of lodgement of the 887 application. Although the over all average was 8 it didn't worked out. 

 

 

 

If you would like to prove you meet the functional English by English test, the test must be held within 12 months prior to the visa lodgement date regardless of your score. If you have at least 1 year full time study, which was fully instructed in English, it can be replaced you have a functional English. 

17 minutes ago, TAS887 said:

yes you have to provide English for both again for 887.

if you can provide functional English for your wife and then you dont need to care about second installment, but 

if your not able to provide then you have to pay second installment which cost you 4900 dollars. so it better your wife does IELTS or PTE and get 4.5 each

 

You are right, but the functional English is overall 4.5 in Ielts or 30 in pte, not each  

7 hours ago, MMM said:

looks like real

It's a great marketing strategy to bring more attention from the people. But I guess it's still fake. The visa subclass is not written the attached photo, so it might be different subclass visa, I guess  Even if it's true, it still good thing for everyone waiting the 887 visa. Hopefully, all 2019 applications are cleared by next week.

On 6/21/2020 at 3:11 PM, MMM said:

hi guys, just a quick question. I want to do a online course, and the institute is in Sydney. the course is about one month. I have not got 887 yet. Am I eligible to do this? thanks

yes

20 hours ago, Urwa said:

Thankx and co give us 70 days to provide these documents.anyone got 70 days.? Because always they give 28 days why give us 70 days?

 

Don't know the exact reason, it used be 70 days before as far as I knew, it's now 28 days, but I think it's not very important as long as you submit the document and click the you have submitted required document on the immi account. Good luck and I will appreciate that if you share the outcome once you get the visa. 

18 minutes ago, 887pos said:

Hi Seniors @nudgee@sha_adelaide

Appreciate your advice on a query I have.

I applied for the 887 visa approximately a month back as primary applicant with my wife as secondary applicant. Through reading this forum I understand that proving functional English is now a requirement for 887.

I already completed IELTS on 15/04/2016 as it was a requirement for the 489 visa. I managed to score an overall score of 8.0 (9 for Listening, 8.5 Reading, 8 for writing and  for speaking)

I spoke to my agent who lodged both my 489 and 887 visa. He is adamant that functional English is not a requirement for the 887 visa as it has already been verified at the time of applying for 489 visa. I even when to the extent of explaining to him that functional English shows as a eligibility requirement for 887 visa on the DHA website. However he still maintains that it is only asked from certain 887 applicants who are currently on other visa's which functional English was not verified at the time of applying for those visa's.

Unfortunately I have not completed any course with a duration of 2 years with the medium of study as English. I completed my masters outside of Australia with the medium of studies as English. However this was for a duration of 1.5 years.

My wife has studied in Australia for approximately 4 years. However, since she is the secondary applicant I am not sure if this is relevant. Further her certificates were not submitted as a part of 887 visa application.

I am now wondering if I should sit for the IELTS exam again and re submit fresh results or if I should go by advice of agent and not complete IELTS. Appreciate your guidance.

Cheers

The functional English is required for both primary and secondary candidate based on recent cases in this forum. 

And the functional English must be taken within 12 months prior to lodge the visa, so your Pte score is not valid unfortunately. And your wife is of course fine to submit her completion letter instead of English test result. 

I would suggest you to take the English exam to prevent any unexpected delay for your visa processing time. 

1 hour ago, MMM said:

 

30 for each band

It's not each 30, overall 30. 

1 hour ago, Urwa said:

I received email from co .request for functional english for secondary applicant. I got 31 overall. It's consider as function english or I need 30 in each for function english. And co give me 70 days for this. Is anyone got 70 days from co.?  Can I contact co regarding the time? 

You passed the requirement, don't worry about that anymore. 

It's overall 30, not each 30. Don't rely on the immigration website, they made a stupid mistake. Refer to migration act or call the immigration, they will give you the immediate answer that overall 30 is required.

You can even read the letter from the CO, how they defined the functional English, it must be clearly written as "overall band score of at least 30, based on the four test components"

https://pearsonpte.com/australiavisas/

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2014L01668

"According to the migration act, the functional English for PTE is the applicant provides evidence of having achieved a Pearson Test of English Academic (PTE Academic) overall band score of at least 30, based on the four test components of speaking, reading, writing and listening in a test conducted"