adelaide or not adelaide?

[Guest mrogers]

Hi all, been a member for a while, with the odd post here and there. I am under the understanding that come July, there will be some changes to TRA. These chages 'allegedly' will revert back to pre Sept, where a vaster number of trades can apply under the scheme. Just hope this will happen, and not be false hope. Anyway, if it doesnt happen, can always go for a sponsor. Anway, that isnt the MAIN problem. I am 31, my wife, 33, and our daughter is 2. We are trying to figure WHERE in Oz the settle. We are stuck on Perth or Adelaide. They both look appealing, but deciding is a headache. I have spoken to a colleage, who is from Sydney, and as put me off Adelaide, by stating it is a little out of it, with not much going on for the younger generation who are used to a lively area. Also, that it is a very religous place with a lot of church goers??.... This is not me speaking, but when someone tells you this it kinda sticks in ones mind. After all, its a life change, and i dont want to move to 'little house on the prairee'. Please, any ex Brits, tell me the real adelaide, is it as good as it looks? And is there plenty to do for young families. (kind of odd asking this question, as being in the UK, we hate the place so anything is prob better). Thank you all, and look forward to your replies.

[Guest Django]

i dont want to move to 'little house on the prairee'.

 

:biglaugh::biglaugh: That is soooooooo funny. I'm Sorry, I know it is a serious question but that really tickled me.

 

Pete

[Guest sarahsmartiepants]

In comparison Adelaide is "small" compared to Sydney, when we went to Sydney they asked where we were from, when I replied Adelaide they said "thats a nice big country town"!!! The city and subs have a population of around 1 mil, 1.5 mil in the whole state.

I love Sydney and personnally could not live there as there is too much going on, great for a holiday. IMO Adelaide has plenty going on, it just diferent, pubs are not the same due to pokies and being little more than betting offices with alcohol!

There are lots of churches, and me being no where near religious at all am not affected one bit by the churches, have never turned to dust when walking past one ...yet!

One thing you will find when you get here is the interstate rivalry..I still dont get it, for every out of stater that slags off Adelaide you will find and Adelaidian to slag of their state..wierd as it ia all the same country.

I think it is probably a good place to bring up kids. I like it here well enough, but dont know where we will end up in the long run.

Read everyones posts and take a middle view...dont just choose one person to believe, and above all make up your own mind

good luck

sarah

[Guest mrogers]

I can only guess Sydney is like Manchester/London in the UK, I couldnt live in either. Ilive in Bolton, which, I suppose is an average town size in UK. Im not religious, but every one to there own. We just want to live in a great community, as near to the beach as we can afford, and with good schools. I would guess most schools are better than UK given the fact there are so many outdoor activities. We wont know anyone, and I cant imagine, once we decide on an area, we wont want to upsticks again. We want to intergrate as quick as possible, and make as many good friends as we can. Being away from family, I feel the best way to settle is to gain a good social network. I will be working as a roofer, so not really bothered about me, but want my wife to settle as best as possible, daughter will be fine as they make friends quicker than Ive typed this .... Mark and Family.

[Guest mrogers]

the 'little house on the prairee' bit? Well, after I was told that, when I think of adelaide its all I can picture. Night John boy, lights out....

[Guest Chelseadownunder]

I have to say we fell in love with Perth after being there twice (Went to Sydney & Melbourne also)I share your concerns and would welcome honest comment from all you guys that are there. I seem to be getting same vibes as orignal poster. Its just a shame Perth is so expensive now.

[Guest Chelseadownunder]

Little house on the pairee was all those little girls with the teath wasnt it, I think you getting mixed up with the Walton Jim Bob.

Good night John Boy Good night mary lou

[Guest sarahsmartiepants]

here they would say g'nite bruce,g'nite sheila!!!

[Guest Chelseadownunder]

Hey guys I cant for the life of me work out how you start a new thread any ideas

Scott

[Rachiegarlo]

Adelaide is called the city of churches by some because....there are so many of them. However a lot of em have been turned into houses and some into clubs. The old jewish synagogue is now a nightclub. This does not mean that Adelaide people are overtly religious, just that a lot of people left their countries settled here because they were allowed to practice their particular faith in peace.Quite often the different communities helped each other. The building of the Anglican Cathedral St Peter's was helped out financially by the Methodists and others.

 

There are no more religious people (the in your face kind) here than anywhere else. Sometimes it surprises me when some people say they are church goers, they don't push their causes, it is a private thing they do. In country areas you will maybe find that more people go to church as it is a way of staying connected with the community that could be wide spread, but then there will be a footy game and a meal in the pub as well.

 

The interstate rivalry stems from way back when each state was a seperate colony, with them not uniting until federation in 1901.

 

It is true that some older teens and young adults head off for the bigger cities of Melbourne or Sydney, but just as many head out to tour the world. A lot come back, but it depends on where the jobs in their particular field are, much as people move around in the UK.

 

Adelaide on the whole is a great place to bring up a family, there are lots of things to do here for children pretty much what you would find in any of the cities. Saying that there are no fixed theme parks here, but you can always go on holiday to them. Within half an hour you can be out in the country doing touristy things, camping, there are old mining towns, islands, national parks, etc.

 

But really only you can decide whether it would suit you. My little piece of advice here is to get a visa to wherever you can, regroup your finances and thoughts, look around and go from there.

 

Rachel

[Guest sarahsmartiepants]

 

It is true that some older teens and young adults head off for the bigger cities of Melbourne or Sydney, but just as many head out to tour the world. A lot come back, but it depends on where the jobs in their particular field are, much as people move around in the UK.

 

 

 

Rachel

This is true, lots of Adelaide born people come back here to raise their families

sarah

[Guest taylor family]

If you want good sea surf and fun for you and your family and want to keep sane and good education that you dont have to pay for then adelaide is not for you we stayed there for 11 months and found it very backward. you can only do the tourist things so many times and national parks before getting realy board.

:DWe now live on the goldcoast queensland and wish we had come sooner there is a lot more to do and cost of living is cheaper and things like festivals that you would pay for in adelaide are free here and climate is better all year round and work is plenty. If you can get a permanant residents visa so you get all benifits from day 1 and roofers are needed here.

Hope that helps and all the best alan taylor.

[Guest TheO'Connors]

We have looked at both Perth and Adelaide (and we also live in Bolton!) we have visited both and liked both however we feel there are more opportunities(in business) in Adelaide. Perth is now soo expensive we are not considering it atall and have applied for our visa for Adelaide. In our opinion Adelaide is a similar size to Bolton but alot better and very near the beach! We have received our State sponsor ship and the application to the DIAC went in 2 weeks ago so now we just have to wait.

 

Good luck with your decision.

 

The O'Connors

 

 

 

This is true, lots of Adelaide born people come back here to raise their families

sarah

[Guest Chelseadownunder]

Adelaide v Melbourne I would really appreciate your thoughts.

 

Work / Beachside living / Cost of living.

 

Is Adelaide too quiet too quaint ???

 

Is Melbourne to big

 

Is the weather that different ?

 

All you answers as always are much appreciated

 

Scott :arghh:

[Guest sarahsmartiepants]

Melbourne has more rain and it is colder than here.

Have no idea about work,food seemed to cost the same when we visited Victoria, not Melbourne its self.

I think Melbourne being big, you could easily be too far from the beach as the subs spread out further/or too far from the city.

I think the quiet/quaint question is hard to get an answer for.....

I think pub life in Oz is no where near the same so you cant compare that, restaurants seem to start closing up early here, all the main concerts seem to come here as well as minor ones. They have the royal show yearly, which I havent been to but my 2 teenagers have been and said it not good! They have just has "sexpo" at the show grounds where you can ride the gerbil and meet a couple of porn stars!!!

You could call it "quaint" in the way that it doesnt take to change very easily, it has to be eased into slowly!

sarah

[Guest Chelseadownunder]

What hit me about Perth was the way kids seemed to respect the country and others. There was one occassion when a group of them were at the top of some stairs and in the UK you feel threatened but these guys actually helped my wife up the stairs with the pram. I dont know if I have had a too idilic view of Australia, thinking Adelaide as a little like Little house on the prairie. The more I here it is starting to sound a bit rough and I guess Melbourne is worse. I know you get yobs everywere but some of the posts recently on this site have been pretty surprissing on the violence that you get there. Swindon can be bad on the weekend but .....

I need some more sober views if you would be so kind.

IS it a case of just staying away from certain known areas or is it more wide spread. Do you get the kids totally disrespecting everything like in the UK where they dont give a **** and get away with murder?

Scott:confused:

[Rachiegarlo]

In general No...., it's not rampant roughness. There are a lot of good kids here who care for their environment, their families and friends. Of course there are some ratbags also, but like anywhere those are the ones who have a higher profile. Most of Adelaide is pretty clean, people generally not throwing rubbish onto the streets, but of course you will see some. Lots of kids here have strong beliefs in causes and will voice them. There are run down, grungy looking suburbs, there are a lot of nice ones aswell. There are over 1 million people here so you are bound to get all types.

[Guest Guest75]

It will depend on where you live.It's the same the world over for larger suburban areas.

 

There are good bits and bad bits.

I find there is something for nearly everyone here - just takes some finding at times:).

[Guest smit]

What hit me about Perth was the way kids seemed to respect the country and others. There was one occassion when a group of them were at the top of some stairs and in the UK you feel threatened but these guys actually helped my wife up the stairs with the pram. I dont know if I have had a too idilic view of Australia, thinking Adelaide as a little like Little house on the prairie. The more I here it is starting to sound a bit rough and I guess Melbourne is worse. I know you get yobs everywere but some of the posts recently on this site have been pretty surprissing on the violence that you get there. Swindon can be bad on the weekend but .....

I need some more sober views if you would be so kind.

IS it a case of just staying away from certain known areas or is it more wide spread. Do you get the kids totally disrespecting everything like in the UK where they dont give a **** and get away with murder?

Scott:confused:

Kids here , in the main, are a lot more respectful and not such anuses as a lot in UK. However there are allways some!.

[Guest Griff]

We have been talking about Adelaide for 4 or 5 years. We are now finacially in a position to go for it, having said that it will still be a struggle but, I am now kinda torn between Adelaide and Brisbane....What to do????

I have tried to look at reasons for both but the two things that seem to clash for me are, and I'm struggling to find which is most important:

Employment - My research shows more opportunities in my field in Brisbane.

Settling - We live in a town with a population of aroung 50,000. My thoughts are that Adelaide would be easier, for the family, to settle in that Brisbane.

 

This is my quandry and I'm really stuck because, to me, having steady employment will help wth settling in but will we, as a family, be happy in Brisbane?

[Guest Sharon and Paul]

HI all, Well i suppose Mrogers , like me you would rent first? ive been on poms in oz and someone says that Perth is to isolated Brisben has high humidity. It seems that we all ask the question? I hope that as we chose Adelaide ive made the righrt one ill let you know asap ? what work do you do ? that may have some bearing on where your life may start in Oz ? . anyway you'll have days where you find questions to send you in to panic but otherdays they bounce off you with the knowledge of knowing that Oz is your destination ? so join all us poms on our journey?. ATB Paul