I couldnt agree more muppetbro and lisa, and it is good to hear bad things but i find it a bit odd that if something does not work for you , this is not the place to give constant bad negative comments. I want to learn from other peoples experences good or bad but not constant moning , maybe if the time spent on here would be better spent making things work down there? . Sorry if i offend any one but i do say whats on my mind which more often than not is respected i hope , the weather is great here is sussex hope you all have a good weekend Cheers Graham