Statistics - time it takes to find a job

[janandi]

Can't directly recommend anyone as, but as mentioned in my post PIA member Jessica Berry (above) appears to be a careers adviser offering resume advice etc. I'd start off by sending her an enquiry by PM (private message) and take it from there. In my view someone who is a migrant themselves, will understand your situation better than a local.

Thank you Keldaz

[Jessica Berry]

At the moment it's fair to say the Adelaide job market, in certain sectors at least is a bit dodge. Obviously if there are no jobs in your industry it's self explanatory, you can't apply for a job that doesn't exist. If however there are jobs being advertised in your industry or your applying for what you believe to be a parallel job roll in a different industry, and your still getting no where, my suspicion would fall on your resume. Your resume is essentially a key, it may fit the lock, but if it don't turn that door won't open. This must be a very frustrating position to be in, worse in many respects to no jobs at all.

 

If I were in such a position I would be seeking advice and guidance from someone like Jessica Berry above. It could be that your resume reads well, but something's lost in translation, maybe parallels are clear to you, but missed by those in receipt. I'd also take along some examples of cover letters you've sent, so an eye can be cast. I totally get it may be a slightly bitter pill for intelligent and qualified people to swallow, almost akin to getting mummy to help you across the road, but sometimes you just can't see for looking. TBH, I can't imagine you'd have to sell your car to pay for this service, it means your being even more proactive, which in turn breeds positivity, confidence and empowers you. At least if your resumes spot on it's not that. Right I'm off for meditation and a chant, as it appears I've gone new age, translated that means a bacon sarnie and a cuppa, do you see.

 

Ps Just to point out I am not JB's sales guru, she could be a bald guy with a beard, living in India for all I know. Good luck all.

 

Love the description, OH and I had a LOL moment with that one.

 

As you and Tamara point out, sometimes people can't see (or don't want to see!!!) what is very obvious to someone like me! For instance I have a friend that works in recruitment and their own resume is 10 pages long. When I say to them 'would you read a 10 page resume if it came into your agency?' the answer is obviously no, but for some reason they think when they apply for a job, a recruiter is going to sit and have the time, patience and interest to read their life story!

 

I also point out to clients it is not just what is on your resume, but sometimes you need to take things off your resume to make it applicable to the role and level of job you are applying for (this applies to migrants and Australian clients). Some information that might be considered important/appropriate for a job in the UK is quite frankly of no interest to a recruiter in Adelaide. In light of technology, applicants also need to understand how to prepare a resume/cover letter if companies are using an electronic recruitment system to shortlist. The list goes on and on and I could talk about this topic for hours!!!!!

Edited March 19, 2016 by Jessica Berry

[Tamara (Homes Down Under)]

Love the description, OH and I had a LOL moment with that one.

 

As you and Tamara point out, sometimes people can't see (or don't want to see!!!) what is very obvious to someone like me! For instance I have a friend that works in recruitment and their own resume is 10 pages long. When I say to them 'would you read a 10 page resume if it came into your agency?' the answer is obviously no, but for some reason they think when they apply for a job, a recruiter is going to sit and have the time, patience and interest to read their life story!

 

I also point out to clients it is not just what is on your resume, but sometimes you need to take things off your resume to make it applicable to the role and level of job you are applying for (this applies to migrants and Australian clients). Some information that might be considered important/appropriate for a job in the UK is quite frankly of no interest to a recruiter in Adelaide. In light of technology, applicants also need to understand how to prepare a resume/cover letter if companies are using an electronic recruitment system to shortlist. The list goes on and on and I could talk about this topic for hours!!!!!

 

Exactly.

In the opinion of my example above...he was convinced that he had the best cv that anyone had ever prepared. He was also very arrogant and would not listen when he asked us to read and comment on his cv. My OH (a blunt Yorkshireman!) sat him down and told him in no uncertain terms that he needed to get professional help to prepare a localized cv that address localized criteria and was specific to the positions that he was applying for. After a few days of sulking he came around and saw someone who tailored his cv to what was required here.

My OH couldn't get a job as a trainer despite running a training section overseas. He reasoned that there were two ways of addressing this...either get on a plane and leave or give them what they want. He registered and went to TAFE for a year to give them a Certificate 4 in Training and Assessment. Sometimes, no matter how much it grates you, after doing things in a particular way for years, you just have to bite the bullet and do it another way.

[PatP]

My hubby was a bricklayer when we emigrated good at his job but he had never done anything else ie landscaping ,tiling ,brick paving

His first job was with an Italian bloke who specialised in ' everything ' according to him !

He told my hubby If you get asked if you can do something say Yes and worry about it later

I know in some lines of work this is not always possible but I think as Tamara says a relevant CV an air of confidence without arrogance goes a long way - as long as you can get an interview in the first place !

[Jessica Berry]

My hubby was a bricklayer when we emigrated good at his job but he had never done anything else ie landscaping ,tiling ,brick paving

His first job was with an Italian bloke who specialised in ' everything ' according to him !

He told my hubby If you get asked if you can do something say Yes and worry about it later

I know in some lines of work this is not always possible but I think as Tamara says a relevant CV an air of confidence without arrogance goes a long way - as long as you can get an interview in the first place !

 

In some areas of work you may get away with it and of course there are always the people that seem to come up smelling of roses, but in Adelaide everyone seems to know everyone and in certain industries there are people who have a 'reputation'! This is also the case if you vouch for someone for a job, the person has to understand that it is your reputation at stake if you put someone forward. I have known newly arrived migrants who have tried to bullsh*t employers in Adelaide, unaware of the harm they are doing, because you often end up coming across the same people again. OH was looking on LinkedIn the other night and it was like a rogues gallery...he was saying 'he got fired from X, he was fired as well from X etc etc!!

[PatP]

In some areas of work you may get away with it and of course there are always the people that seem to come up smelling of roses, but in Adelaide everyone seems to know everyone and in certain industries there are people who have a 'reputation'! This is also the case if you vouch for someone for a job, the person has to understand that it is your reputation at stake if you put someone forward. I have known newly arrived migrants who have tried to bullsh*t employers in Adelaide, unaware of the harm they are doing, because you often end up coming across the same people again. OH was looking on LinkedIn the other night and it was like a rogues gallery...he was saying 'he got fired from X, he was fired as well from X etc etc!!

I was talking about way back in 1982 and as I said my hubbys job was manual ,he did learn a lot from the Italian guy he worked with even if the same guy didn't pay a good wage They went to Port Augusta to work and rolled in sleeping bags in the building they worked on not even the luxury of a tent as accomadarion Lol I agree it's who you know in lots of instances I got my security licence in 1984 and had so many jobs offered over time it was a licence to work Times have changed unfortunatly and I feel sorry for anyone who tires to get ahead an can't

[Tamara (Homes Down Under)]

This is also the case if you vouch for someone for a job, the person has to understand that it is your reputation at stake if you put someone forward. !!

 

Again I totally agree.

The conduct of that person can really affect the ability to help anyone else in the future.

A few years ago I had a lovely family staying and went out of my way to help them settle. This included pulling a few strings at a local business. She skipped the formal application, the telephone interview, the group screening and went straight int an interview. At the end of the interview she was offered a job and then turned it down! Spoils it for everyone else afterwards now.