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Hi, my wife and I are looking at moving to Oz.

My (English) outlaws live in WA, my wife's a Primary School Teacher and Early Years Specialist. 

We are hoping to move to Adelaide area as it's nearer to my in-laws than the UK, but still three hours flight time away.

We have a toddler and my wife wants to be nearer her family and we have spent a lot of time in WA over the last 14 years, even getting married on the beach in Rockingham.

We have no idea what suburbs are nice with families, which are rough and best avoided, etc. We would quite like to be near to the beach if possible.

We are looking to rent initially and then maybe buy in Adelaide area if we like it.

 

Anyone know whether teaching jobs would be hard to find?

I'm a trucker but not necessarily looking for a truck driving job, I'd be happy doing pretty much anything, fork lift driving, van driving, working outdoors etc.

Any help appreciated

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Hi Dave

We are in same predicament.  What point of visa application are you at? Where in UK are you? We also have family in WA. Need a bit of support as all this malarkey is very frustrating.

Cheers phil

 

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Hi 

Not too sure about teaching jobs but there seem to be nurseries popping up everywhere at the moment. I think you would find a driving job pretty easy over here and would maybe go for a forklifting job so you could have more sociable hours to enjoy life more. 

If you want to be near the beaches You could go from grange all the way down to Aldinga. I think would depend more on where you will be working. We are currently about 10 minutes drive from Brighton beach but we are moving to Seaford area this year. 

My job is just north of the city but will still only be about 40 minutes drive which I don’t mind. I would definitely rent for a little while and just explore areas to see what feels best for you. 

We prefer the Southern suburbs rather than the North but it’s all personal preference. 

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Hello and welcome 🙂

Could probably find work in a kindy or nursery though not sure what the pay would be like. 

With regard to the primary teaching, that may well depend. Year 7 primary will be moving into high school in 2022. So the job market will change quite considerably in terms of primary positions before and after that. For example, year 7 primary teachers can move across to teach Y7 in high school as I understand it, but many may not want to teach in high school. And if they are in permanent posts, they may well bump down a year or two into Y6 or 5 and teach there instead. And then those on temp and short term contracts (ie the one year contract posts) in those groups may well find themselves on the outer to accommodate permanent staff. I had this conversation with a current primary school teacher who is on (a renewed) one year contract for the last few years. And who said in the years now leading up to the change, permanent posts don't seem to be coming up and they worry for their job (well they worry every year tbf as its never certain the yearly contract will be renewed, depends on so many factors each year) come 2022 or even finding a new one at primary level in the year groups they prefer to teach in (reception/Y1/Y2/Y3) due to the knock on effect if Y7 (permanent) teachers opt to remain in primary teaching other year levels. 

https://www.education.sa.gov.au/sites-and-facilities/year-7-high-school

If your wife has specialist skills she may well find private schools better as most of those already start Y7 into high school and have done so for a fair few years now. So their system is already set up and has hopefully ironed out the issues and balanced their workforce better. 

FWIW, the teaching posts for the following school year (starting Jan each year) are usually advertised June/July time the previous year IIRC. Maybe into August also but the teachers I know seem to all be applying/looking for posts from about June and are avidly doing their CV's and so on and applying for everything they can in hope of making interviews. Those in one year posts often have to wait till the end of the year to see if their post will be renewed and quite a lot often are (for example at my kids school most of the one year contract teachers have been there a number of years now). However, the attraction of newly qualified teachers and therefore their cheaper salaries is not to be underestimated. If its temp relief work then its a case of doing the rounds to all the schools and handing out the CV and it'll go into the pile with all the rest. As to if work then comes your way.... I know some who have built up good working relationships with certain schools/areas and who get called on first before the teacher goes to the CV relief teacher pile and contacts any of those.  Country towns may be places to find permanent or year contracts as many people don't want to take up those posts. 

As Curly above, I prefer the southern suburbs but there are some nice northern ones not far north from the CBD. I'd not go much further north than that though personally. Also eastern and western suburbs are good, depending on your wants/needs. We started off in Glenelg for 7 months. About as city beachside as you can get in terms of location. While it was nice and the beach was handy, plus its helped by being on the tram line and having Jetty Rd, Moseley Sq and the marina etc, it really wasn't for us in the longer term, at least not with kids and a budget that we got more house for our $$ slightly further out. We are between 10-15 minutes to beaches, can be out into the Adelaide Hills within a few minutes of leaving our house and on the expressway in minutes also. 

Aussies do seem to love their certificates so anything you can get to help the fork lift driving etc one you are here is possibly a good thing. I'd expect you can read up online about what Aus certification is good to have for prospective employers and the like. 

 

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Brilliant.

Thanks for your help.

I used to be a fork lift driver,  before I became a van driver and then a trucker, so I did think if quite like just loading and unloading trucks on a fork lift.

Thanks again for your help.

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On 4/21/2019 at 6:52 PM, Phil the dec said:

Hi Dave

We are in same predicament.  What point of visa application are you at? Where in UK are you? We also have family in WA. Need a bit of support as all this malarkey is very frustrating.

Cheers phil

 

Hi Phil. I'm in East Midlands.

We've paid to go through an agent who tells us the best way in regards Visas etc.

It's been quite stressful, as I'm older than my wife my skills are irrelevant, so we are going on her age and skills. WA aren't doing state sponsorship for teachers so we are looking at SA. I've never visited SA before hence the questions.

We've done the PTE test and got 20 points from that, done the skills assessment which has been granted and now the Expression of Interest is about to be submitted. My wife did a three year degree and the Australian government only recognise four year degrees, even though she's been teaching for seven years, it appears the experience doesn't count so she had to go back to uni for a year and get a PGCE degree too.

My wife is about to get her Teacher  Qualifications Assessment done. 

I understand the Oz government being strict when you look at the state unlimited migration has left the UK in, but it's very frustrating non the less, when we want to move to Oz, obey the laws, integrate, pay taxes and contribute positively to the country and my wife wants to train the next generation.

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