tricky finding work

[Kingpin]

Good to read this tread...we too are state sponsered and my hubby found it hard to find work...not because there are no jobs just seems impossible to get them!!!! Thankfully he found work 2 weeks before christmas 2 and a half mths after arriving,and some jobs he applied for back then are still been advertised????....A lot of them he found advertised for 4-5 weeks,than another 3 weeks to short list..then hopefully u will have a phone interview and if ur real lucky a personnal interview...so almost ten weeks....so laid back which is lovely in some ways but frustrating wen u are paying rent and bills and need some money coming in...lol...

 

Agree wholeheartedly with you here. Jobs being advertised way after CVs sent in. Then hearing nothing back. Then seeing job advertised again.

 

My husband was eventaully offered his job 6 weeks after the initial interview!! They were a VERY long six weeks....

[Guest Barney Rubble]

Hope it all works out well but, if i may offer some advice , once the resume is sent in give the company a call a week later to see if they have got it and who is looking after the applications.

 

Then after a week, give that person a call

 

You have nothing to lose, at least it means they'll remember your name and it'll show them your keen, after all i doubt they'll flag the application to throw away .

 

The internet and emails great for correspondance without meeting or fear of confrontation, give it a go and back yourself

 

You may be the only person they need to interview, it is all timing.

 

Ta Ta.

[Guest teamV]

It is hard we have found too, like you my husband just simply can't not work he likes to be busy doing what he loves and does, he has got a job now.....in Brisbane he is flying over Sunday to start Monday leaving me an kids here for time being, his brother is there so he is staying with them. Not what we envisaged doing we came as a unit an all that bt he wants to build not empt containers, but weve got to pay the bills so needs must.

 

Nicola

 

I think he's doing the right thing,even if you end up moving over there ,its better than getting a plane back to the uk.In a few years time you may found it was the best bit of luck you've had.

 

 

 

 

Kev.

[Guest nic-manchester]

Thanks team v! Glad of the support. The way I see it s he is a bloody good bricky an loves his job didn't come here to just do out, an we can't afford to hang around til something comes up could be months or weeks who knows...he needs exp on site to get own co going an opportunities are not here!! We are lucky his brother found him work ith him in Brisbane an fortunate that we got money to do it although don't want to move again we like Adelaide an everyone has been so friendly but you got to go where the work is like uk we have friends who work in London just to earn a wage. Just a bit of warning to others it's ok havin your heart set on something but if t don't work you got to do whats good for your family, we are certain we have made the right decision to be in oz best thing we done just got to find our place.

 

Nicola x

[Guest teamV]

I used to work for volvo trucks in west london ,but still lived in cumbria ,I would travel down, work 4 night's and then travel back home.It wasn't easy staying in pub digs then sharing a house with other lads doing the same thing,but the money was 3 time's what I could earn at home and for the first time in my life I put some money to one side.I did that for over 4 years ,it was really hard some days slogging up and down the motorway half a sleep,but sometimes you've just got to do what's best for your family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kev.

[Guest nic-manchester]

I can imagine good for you gotta do whatever us Brits I think are very hard working an willing to do whatever, we are all grateful to be given opportunity to work but there got to be somework!

[Jessica Berry]

Don't forget that from November to February you are also competing with students and older school kids who are also happy to "do anything" and of course, if they are Australian they have Australian references and Australian contacts. I have heard people complaining about how in Britain the immigrants get all the jobs when the locals don't get a look in - I have to say I think here they do things the right way! It's tough for new arrivals I know, but locals should get priority imho.

 

 

Diane is spot on. I have wrote on the site many times that generally Nov to Jan is the worst time to be looking for work and if you are planning on coming in that period make sure you have enough money to support yourselves. Then someone will post that they are arriving in that period with several kids and sure enough a few weeks later they are posting saying they can't believe they can't get a job and their money is running out and it is the Governments fault. I appreciate it may be hard to understand the way that Adelaide 'shuts' down over this period until you are here but people on this forum are offering well meaning advice and trying to pre-warn people about this.

 

In terms of finding a job you need to understand the way the job market works over here. It can be frustrating and disheartening. I have heard many people say "I am prepared to do anything" but in reality that is often not true. My background is HR and training and when we arrived I started off working in office jobs where the extent of my excitement in a day was flattening cardboard boxes the stationery arrived in and handwriting envelopes out because the accountant could not be bothered to get an envelope from the stationery cupboard, but I kept my mouth shut and just got on with it because you need to look at the bigger picture and not where you are now but where you are aiming to get to.

 

I felt I was not getting anywhere career wise over here so I made a choice to restudy and gain my Australian Human Resource and Training qualifications at a cost of over $6,000 (I had UK qualifications in both areas). I figure you either sit moaning about it or you do something about it. So I gained Australian qualifications, made some great friends through my studies and the job I have now is well paid in HR and the two qualification they asked for in the job advert were the 2 I had studied. In my interview the first question they asked me was why I was interested in the job...I backed up my commitment to the job by saying that I had paid myself to study both qualifications, going to evening classes twice a week while working full-time. I work in HR/recruitment and that answer would impress me!!

[Guest smit]

Diane is spot on. I have wrote on the site many times that generally Nov to Jan is the worst time to be looking for work and if you are planning on coming in that period make sure you have enough money to support yourselves. Then someone will post that they are arriving in that period with several kids and sure enough a few weeks later they are posting saying they can't believe they can't get a job and their money is running out and it is the Governments fault. I appreciate it may be hard to understand the way that Adelaide 'shuts' down over this period until you are here but people on this forum are offering well meaning advice and trying to pre-warn people about this.

 

In terms of finding a job you need to understand the way the job market works over here. It can be frustrating and disheartening. I have heard many people say "I am prepared to do anything" but in reality that is often not true. My background is HR and training and when we arrived I started off working in office jobs where the extent of my excitement in a day was flattening cardboard boxes the stationery arrived in and handwriting envelopes out because the accountant could not be bothered to get an envelope from the stationery cupboard, but I kept my mouth shut and just got on with it because you need to look at the bigger picture and not where you are now but where you are aiming to get to.

 

I felt I was not getting anywhere career wise over here so I made a choice to restudy and gain my Australian Human Resource and Training qualifications at a cost of over $6,000 (I had UK qualifications in both areas). I figure you either sit moaning about it or you do something about it. So I gained Australian qualifications, made some great friends through my studies and the job I have now is well paid in HR and the two qualification they asked for in the job advert were the 2 I had studied. In my interview the first question they asked me was why I was interested in the job...I backed up my committment to the job by saying that I had paid myself to study both qualifications, going to evening classes twice a week while working full-time. I work in HR/recruitment and that answer would impress me!!

with all due respect Jessica, I dont think you realise the state the residential building industry is in. yeah dec jan is crap, but there wasnt work there before and theres limited now!

[Kingpin]

Diane is spot on. I have wrote on the site many times that generally Nov to Jan is the worst time to be looking for work and if you are planning on coming in that period make sure you have enough money to support yourselves. Then someone will post that they are arriving in that period with several kids and sure enough a few weeks later they are posting saying they can't believe they can't get a job and their money is running out and it is the Governments fault. I appreciate it may be hard to understand the way that Adelaide 'shuts' down over this period until you are here but people on this forum are offering well meaning advice and trying to pre-warn people about this.

 

Jessica

 

Not a helpful post. Depending on when visas are issued and house sales complete etc it may not be possible to delay coming over to suit Adelaide's job market and the "shut down" over Christmas. Especially when the period you are talking about is 3 months.

[Jessica Berry]

As the saying goes..forewarned is forearmed. My advice in my post is if you are planning on coming in that period make sure you have enough money to support yourselves as jobs (in most industries) are hard to find. This advice comes from personal experience of trying to find work in that period as well as working in recruitment dealing with job vacancies over that period. People have a choice whether to listen to the advice or not.

[Guest nic-manchester]

In my opinion just to add I applied for tens of jobs in various admin roles knowing I could more than do the munane tasks required in order to work my way up and see what happens I was prepared to commit myself to any job but I got told I was over qualified so what do I do then I can even start out.

I certainly knew what I was letting myself in for but I speak to many British and Aussies and it's is true the government should not be saying they need tradesmen like my husband when they cannot support the Market for it, only this week I have heard from Two other bricklayers who have been out of work since last year.

[Diane]

I think one of the other problems is that South Australia is an incredibly big place - if the job is in demand in South Australia, that doesn't necessarily mean Adelaide. If people are prepared to go and live in Mount Gambier or Whyalla, or even further out, perhaps there is more work (just picking place names at random) - but "Adelaide" isn't the state, it's just the capital city of a very large, very spread out, very varied state.

[Jessica Berry]

I have put this information on as a separate thread, but as this posting is of interest to people and being viewed quite a lot I thought I would add it on....

 

There was an article in Saturday's job supplement stating...

 

With latest Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showing the national economy shed more jobs than it created in 2011, making it the worst year for job creation since 1992, workers more than ever need to think about upgrading skills to make the cut or get an edge.

The job market here for lots of industries is very competitive. I would assume the fact that it is the worst year for job creation in 20 years would be contributed in some part to the GFC. However compared to Europe, Australia is still going strong, with 5% unemployment say compared to Spain at 23% (1 in 4 Spaniards are now unemployed).

[ian mc]

Its ok saying its only 5% unemployment but most tradies are self employed so when they are not working and some have not been working for months it does not show up as they can not claim anything its more than likely higher than 5%.

 

I have put this information on as a separate thread, but as this posting is of interest to people and being viewed quite a lot I thought I would add it on....

 

There was an article in Saturday's job supplement stating...

 

With latest Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showing the national economy shed more jobs than it created in 2011, making it the worst year for job creation since 1992, workers more than ever need to think about upgrading skills to make the cut or get an edge.

The job market here for lots of industries is very competitive. I would assume the fact that it is the worst year for job creation in 20 years would be contributed in some part to the GFC. However compared to Europe, Australia is still going strong, with 5% unemployment say compared to Spain at 23% (1 in 4 Spaniards are now unemployed).

[Hutchy]

When my hubby first applied for the visa a lot of companies were interested, however not a lot would take the sponsorship any further. Once he got the visa, companies were interested, but wanted to see him face to face. Thankfully, we had enough funds for him to come over and seek employment. I realise that not a lot of people can afford this, but it was the only way for us to guarantee him a job to come over to.

[Bevev's]

Hi

How difficult is it to apply and get an ABN? We are coming out on my visa (Nurse), but hubby works as a tiler, so we presume he'll need one to work. Can you advise please?

[ian mc]

If he is working for someone he will not need an ABN, If he is working for himself self employed he will need one and a builders licence insurance and register for GST.

[Bevev's]

Thanks Ian

[jim and adel]

Its ok saying its only 5% unemployment but most tradies are self employed so when they are not working and some have not been working for months it does not show up as they can not claim anything its more than likely higher than 5%.

 

Spot on. Also, Aus has far higher part-time and casual workers than most developed countries, so even when 'employed' and therefore not shown on the stats it can be a precarious existence. My wife isn't unemployed but doesn't know from one week to the next whether she'll be earning.

 

Jim

[Jessica Berry]

Just reporting the figures as stated on the news. I think we are all realistic enough to know that any figure/statistic given has an error for margin/bias depending on the desired outcome.

[Guest Joe Greer]

Dont come to Brisi mate ive not worked since sept, I was going to try Adelaide.

[Guest DingDangDoo]

Hi Folks,

 

Is it hard to find work in general here or is it just in specialised areas?

Im willing to do anything really to get the money coming in first,will i struggle to get even these jobs?

 

Thanks

[xzibit]

It depends how well qualified you are I think. But I'm not overly well qualified, and can't even get casual work as it's given to students. And I can't get anything out of my field as they say that as soon as a job in my field came along, I'd be off.

[Guest DingDangDoo]

Have you worked at all since arriving? What about working in the winerys or doing traffic mgmt or something?

[xzibit]

Yeah, I got a 3 month contract about 2 weeks after arriving, which ended up lasting me until christmas. So it's the first time I've been out of work. I've applied for all sorts, and the outcome is that they know as soon as I get offered a job in my industry, I'll be off to it - which is true. So I was looking at casual work, but they've all been gone when I enquired so far.