Be Prepared......!!!!!

[Guest mOZzy]

Jac reckons he can turn your hair grey?,

 

Guzzler

 

 

 

his own best example

[Guest happy feet]

noticed this thread hadn't had many repliesfrom people still in the UK, so thought i would reply on my thoughts...

 

When i first started looking into emigrating to Oz, i can honestly say i was wearing rose tinted glass, thinking i would be able to aford a great house, swimming pool ect...... But this site has taken off the glasses and made me think really hard about moving my family 10 thous miles away and things not being Rosey!!!!

Thank you for that because i know feel that although it is not going to be easy, i am more prepared for the reality. I think it is very important for people that our already in Adelaide to tell the truth, good or bad,so that people thinking of moving realise both sides. We are all from different walks of life, some with more money than others, with very different lives so what might be classed as worse off to one person might mean some ones riches (does this make sense???) Not sure if this is making much sense, better speakin than writting!!!

All i know is that i am desperate to give my kids a better qualilty of life, and am prepared for the stresses when moving over, however still being stuck in this country not being able to sell this house is also stressful, however if i don't follow my dream i will always live with regret!!

Thank you all for your honest opinions, for me it has certainly made me think alot harder about the move....But still coming??????

 

Cara

[ozzieclare2be]

noticed this thread hadn't had many repliesfrom people still in the UK, so thought i would reply on my thoughts...

 

When i first started looking into emigrating to Oz, i can honestly say i was wearing rose tinted glass, thinking i would be able to aford a great house, swimming pool ect...... But this site has taken off the glasses and made me think really hard about moving my family 10 thous miles away and things not being Rosey!!!!

Thank you for that because i know feel that although it is not going to be easy, i am more prepared for the reality. I think it is very important for people that our already in Adelaide to tell the truth, good or bad,so that people thinking of moving realise both sides. We are all from different walks of life, some with more money than others, with very different lives so what might be classed as worse off to one person might mean some ones riches (does this make sense???) Not sure if this is making much sense, better speakin than writting!!!

All i know is that i am desperate to give my kids a better qualilty of life, and am prepared for the stresses when moving over, however still being stuck in this country not being able to sell this house is also stressful, however if i don't follow my dream i will always live with regret!!

Thank you all for your honest opinions, for me it has certainly made me think alot harder about the move....But still coming??????

 

Cara

 

Totally agree with you happy feet. We were under no illusions we would be able to afford to buy a big house with pool etc. WE are starting again with a 10% deposit if that, the reality is once you start earning $'s a mortgage just isnt as affordable as our uk one was. Even a $250,000 mortgage will set us back around $2300 a month in repayments and there isnt much to buy for this figure now. We would realistically be looking at 300,000 and the mortgage will swallow half our monthly earnings if not more. For us the best option is going to be to rent for a while and see how the market pans out. I wish we were in a postion to be mortgage free but we never will now for years to come.

 

But if we dont do it soon prices may go up again, we knew this before we came out but the reality of living with $ is different than it seems back in uk. Having said that we still came and if i was asked if i wanted to go back i dont think i would, even though we arent settled x:)

[laura girling]

Just to keep it real,

That isn't many incidents okay they are shocking, this isn't heaven, people do do wrong things.

Look at the results for Bristol or Newcastle or London, the stats are not even compairable.

I feel a lot safer here than i have ever done in the Uk.

Ive not felt comfortable in the city since ive been 25 years old and this is in the daytime.

I do feel relaxed in Adelaide city in the daytime.

 

 

Laura xx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’ve kept an eye on news stories out of Adelaide for many years now, and although I agree that things are probably better there than in the big cities of the UK (where stabbings and shootings seem to be out of control, especially among gangs), my perception is that things are a bit worse than you make out.

 

Gouger Street, which is one of the main restaurant areas in the City, particularly for tourists, has actually had 3 shootings in 5 months, albeit all of them bikie gang related.

 

Just taking a casual and very random look back on the internet I found these incidents in the last year or so:

 

June 2007 – 4 wounded in shooting in Light Square outside nightclub (bikies)

October 2007 – man shot near Light Square

November 2007 – man stabbed in fight outside Adelaide High School

December 2007 – man stabbed at party by gatecrashers (gang related)

May 2008 – 15 shots fired in Gouger Street (bikies)

June 2008 – drive by shooting in Gouger Street

July 2008 – man stabbed outside nightclub in Waymouth Street

July 2008 – man threatened with knife and car stolen in Parafield Gardens

July 2008 - drive by robbery at West Beach

August 2008 – man stabbed at Brahma Lodge Hotel

August 2008 – man stabbed during break-in at Murray Bridge house

August 2008- shots fired by man during break-in with sledgehammers in Blair Atholl

August 2008 – 4 men charged over shooting in Blair Atholl (a different incident)

August 2008 – man charged with attempted murder over road rage incident at Hindmarsh

August 2008 – Bikie shot in his front yard in Payneham

September 2008 – taxi driver stabbed by gang

September 2008 – woman stabbed at bus stop in King William St

September 2008 – 15 year old taken to hospital with stab in the back

September 2008 –man stabbed at Semaphore by someone he knew

September 2008 – men gatecrashed party in Happy Valley and fired gunshots at a car

October 2008 – 2 injured in Gouger Street shooting

October 2008 – man stabbed in Norwood outside a hotel

 

Touch wood I’ve never been robbed in England but I had clothes stolen off my washing line twice in Adelaide, and I know several people there who have been burgled. A guy my husband was at college with ended up getting convicted of a double (drug-related) murder a few years ago and is now in prison !! My husband’s second cousin was murdered (in Victoria) by some psychotic fellow student at university !!

 

I don’t want to be negative or sensationalist about this, just realistic. Adelaide isn’t different to anywhere else - and crime exists everywhere.

[Guest graandjac]

hi all. just thought i would say my 10cents worth too.

 

i moved from scotland to new zealand in 2004, then from new zealand to canada in july 08.

 

now were moving to adelaide after only 3 months in canada!

 

if theres one thing that i have realised about being happy somewhere, the job has a lot to do with it.

 

i think i kidded myself into thinking i could come to canada and even though the job was a major step down from what i was in new zealand, i could still be happy, WRONG.

 

personally, i think if you are happy in your work, then it goes a long long way to help you settle in a foreign land.

 

and my god, yes we only were here for 3 months! but, hey, i looked at all the options, sussed out other jobs, even had other interviews, but it just would not have worked. it may seem a rash decision, but 1 or 2 years of misery is not worth it if you can get out while you still have your sanity and try somewhere else!

 

when i moved to NZ in 2004 i missed my friends and family a lot, but i resisted a trip home to scotland. seen so many people head back home purely because they miss simple stuff like watching the footy down the pub with the lads etc.

 

everyone is different, and if you do decide its not the place for you, you go home, and maybe even end upcoming back......it doesnt matter. it a learning process no matter of your age or situation and in the end we end up happier even if it takes lots of saving, spending and moving around!!

 

ok, thats my piece.

 

Grant

 

Good Post Grant, very good indeed:notworthy:

[Guest graandjac]

noticed this thread hadn't had many repliesfrom people still in the UK, so thought i would reply on my thoughts...

 

When i first started looking into emigrating to Oz, i can honestly say i was wearing rose tinted glass, thinking i would be able to aford a great house, swimming pool ect...... But this site has taken off the glasses and made me think really hard about moving my family 10 thous miles away and things not being Rosey!!!!

Thank you for that because i know feel that although it is not going to be easy, i am more prepared for the reality. I think it is very important for people that our already in Adelaide to tell the truth, good or bad,so that people thinking of moving realise both sides. We are all from different walks of life, some with more money than others, with very different lives so what might be classed as worse off to one person might mean some ones riches (does this make sense???) Not sure if this is making much sense, better speakin than writting!!!

All i know is that i am desperate to give my kids a better qualilty of life, and am prepared for the stresses when moving over, however still being stuck in this country not being able to sell this house is also stressful, however if i don't follow my dream i will always live with regret!!

Thank you all for your honest opinions, for me it has certainly made me think alot harder about the move....But still coming??????

 

Cara

 

Cara spot on with the never going to know....? as for a better place to bring up your kids thats the one reason we all give for the big jump , and in our minds Australia is a better place to bring up our children, go for it.......

[HEAPS GOOD !!!]

I like the old adage " Dnt knock it til you try it !!! "

 

And tell you what we did that and we cnt knock it at all, with the exception of the work situation bein a sack of Cack everything else is all good.

 

I would rather be outta work here than back in the Wetlands.

 

Lynn we too said that if we didnt like what we saw then we would give it another shot somewhere else, but unfortunately some people dnt have that freedome as all VISAs are different.

[Guest smit]

 

Lynn we too said that if we didnt like what we saw then we would give it another shot somewhere else, but unfortunately some people dnt have that freedome as all VISAs are different.

But that different visa has given many people a chance that they otherwisw wouldnt have had;)

[Denise]

:)well after looking through so many (not going to call them negative posts), it prompted this.......learn by our mistakes they are everywhere on the forum, and iam not jumping on anyone.

 

Everyone has some hickups when they arrive from trying to get a job to not securing a rental untill the last day of there short term rental ending, at the time all very stressfull things, but these same things keep cropping up......you must be prepared for things to go wrong they do to everyone....!!!!

 

We have met (very happy and loving it new arrivals) who have really struggled with finding work, taken weeks (and it will) to secure a rental, even some who's kids have wandered the wrong line of the law (lots of stress) who have got on with it, iam not knocking the people who dont like it or are finding things hard . But it would make things easer if you were prepared, because the way things are done, its not the sh** ozzy system its just a different system, and we have to adapt. There are so many people who critisize(?) some of the methods here when its not the method its just different to what we have all known in the uk for most of our life's.

 

When you arrive you need to be 100% positive this alone will attract other positive people, who in turn help each other , contraversial statment .......the more negative you become the more negative people you attract.

 

Just because we in some way passed the tra or other tests needed to get the visa by no means gets you a job....be aware of this, as ian b said as far as some ozzies are concerned there are to many brits comming over who want to put the minimum of effort in at work and go sit down the beach......there is a good life to be had here by putting in lots of hard work and riding out some very hard times when you first arrive.......getting the shiney sticker, selling the house is a ride in the park compared to when you get here..........so be prepared.

 

Six months in and we love it here , and for the record its not all paradise, iam only on $22.50 an hour which just pays the bills, and working harder than i ever have...but its worth it........our mistakes..........should have do it years ago:biglaugh:

well said..........................

[Guest Ellie]

Well we finally arrived in May 7 days before our visa ran out!! We were extremely delayed as I was diagnosed with Cancer the month after our visa was granted. My Hubby had been out of work for months and I couldn't work due to 2 major operations to remove the cancer. It hit us hard financially but the house had sold so we booked the flights the second I had the all clear. When we got here , which was on a shoestring, we stayed in the city to sort things out then moved to our chosen area in a holiday flat. Then the flipping house sale fell through!!! We have no money coming over and needed the equity to send for our shipping. Luckily hubby got work straight away and we did struggle to get a property to start with as we had no savings and hubby was being paid cash while they sorted his bank out. But we found a real estate agent that gave us a break and we now rent a lovely house and are just getting by. My daughter is doing ok at school and has made lots of friends, we have borrowed a lounge suite off newly made ozzy friends and I don't regret a thing. I would love my home comforts but it will happen in good time. All I know is having experienced the most frightening thing of my life I just appreciate waking up every morning and realising my dream And that's living here! With positive thoughts anything is possible.

[HEAPS GOOD !!!]

Well we finally arrived in May 7 days before our visa ran out!! We were extremely delayed as I was diagnosed with Cancer the month after our visa was granted. My Hubby had been out of work for months and I couldn't work due to 2 major operations to remove the cancer. It hit us hard financially but the house had sold so we booked the flights the second I had the all clear. When we got here , which was on a shoestring, we stayed in the city to sort things out then moved to our chosen area in a holiday flat. Then the flipping house sale fell through!!! We have no money coming over and needed the equity to send for our shipping. Luckily hubby got work straight away and we did struggle to get a property to start with as we had no savings and hubby was being paid cash while they sorted his bank out. But we found a real estate agent that gave us a break and we now rent a lovely house and are just getting by. My daughter is doing ok at school and has made lots of friends, we have borrowed a lounge suite off newly made ozzy friends and I don't regret a thing. I would love my home comforts but it will happen in good time. All I know is having experienced the most frightening thing of my life I just appreciate waking up every morning and realising my dream And that's living here! With positive thoughts anything is possible.

 

 

Great post guys...so sorry hear about the issues you have had.....hopefully it will be onwards and upwards now.....

 

Keep the faith...no one ever said it was easy this moving tp the other side of the world....were all here if you ever need to let off steam.

 

 

 

HG

[snifter]

I agree with you Sarah, do you notice that no one from the UK has posted on this thread since yesterday?

 

I hadn't seen it as I've been busy all weekend. Otherwise I may have replied sooner

 

I sent someone a PM the other day and thought rather than try to rewrite my thoughts again I'd copy some text over and add a bit in here and there.

 

Actually, I think I'm one who is still UK based who admits to liking Adelaide a great deal but know its not without faults. I've said as much also. I've also visited a number of times and spent not just weeks but months there, so feel comfortable there and know certain areas fairly well. And have seen a more realistic view of Aussie life than many get to before moving over. I know I have an Aussie husband to thank for that I don't have understanding of the visa applications, the job market, the tax system or certain other things so don't comment on those. I do however give my thoughts on moving overseas and how to go about settling in, planning and other things. It is something I've done many many times and up till my return to the UK a number of years back I'd moved 13 times in 8 years overseas! So I do think I am in a position to offer advice, support and thoughts to others thinking of making a move. I also know how hard it can be to settle in a foreign country, learn a language, find your way round the system, make friends and everything else emigrating entails.

 

We are not moving back to Aus because we think it'll be better or easier to find work etc. Its my husbands home and he is ready to return and so am I. I have always supported him in being here knowing he would one day wish to return. I'm fine with leaving the UK as having spent my 20's overseas I feel no real attachment to living here now and certainly have no desire to live here long term anymore. I realised a long time ago that my life would take me back overseas and I'm fine with that.

 

I do often feel that Brit's perception of Aus is skewed because of what they see on Neighbours and the moving down under type shows. Once you live somewhere you do all the usual things and get on with life. Work, socialise, pay bills.

 

It often seems to me, the way it is described, that people are expecting a nightlife/social life on par with a British city. But in reality I don't think that really exisits over in Aus. Mainly as the lifestyle is more geared to outside. I know when I've done the social scene in Adelaide it often has been more about get togethers at people's houses or BBQ down at the beach etc rather that doing the pubs and clubs. So for me, its not about moving to find a nightlife/social life like I am used to but adjusting and adapting to the style of living there.

 

I do feel also that thinking 'social life?' and worrying that Adelaide means its over for younger people or even older ones. Far from it. But like anything, you have to give it a chance, get out there and be prepared for it not to happen overnight. Adjusting, settling in, getting an understanding of Aussies and how they socialise and then adapting to it. I love the more relaxed social scene in Adelaide.

 

It also makes a huge difference to happiness if you actually like/love where you are living. The town/city, its a huge thing if its not a place you don't feel comfortable or happy in. It can really get you down. I think visiting a place before moving there is always wise but realise that many don't get a choice or cannot afford to etc. So if it turns out to not be the right place, then making another move makes sense. I'd just say visit where you would like to move to if you can then. Rather than possibly find you've moved somewhere new and again are not happy with it.

 

I don't think I've ever said moving is easy and will usually say to people emigrating to remember those first few months will be hard on them. Trying to settle in, find their way round, meet people, get kids into schools (if they have them), all of that will mean things won't be an instant hit. But to give it time, support each other and ensure they all have a talk over dinner every week or so to see how things are going and that anyone who is struggling with something has the support of them all and can be helped. I lived overseas for many years and know how hard it can be to settle into a place. It can take a couple of years even to really feel like you are 'home'. So don't give up on a dream. People put a lot into their move and once in Aus it will only get harder for a while.

[snifter]

I'd also like to add that I joined here to ask about certain things I am trying to get a handle on with regard to moving. I realise I am lucky in many respects as I don't have the whole visa application issue to wade through. I also don't feel like I need information as to if Adelaide is the place we want to live in Aus. Its about the only place we want to live there For a number of reasons, even with its faults. It's my husbands hometown, his (large) family are there or not too far from it. And we want our son to grow up knowing Australia and his family, being Australian and to enjoy our lives together there. Rather than here. England doesn't hold my husbands heart, it lost mine years ago.

 

I'll miss a few things about the UK. The main thing will be the rural countryside I grew up in and around. Crisp winter mornings with a hard frost. Those things I'll miss. I love the south west of England for that and know that there is nothing in Australia to compare. I don't enjoy the dust clouds from the outback that sit on Adelaide in summer or the dry intense heat when it gets to over 40C then. But I know I'll adjust, even if I never like that side of things Much like here not liking certain aspects of our weather. Rough with the smooth.

 

I am one who is big on making the move totally. In mind and body. I always stand by that. It does no good for me to hanker for things back in the UK as I find it doesn't help adjusting to life elsewhere. So I make the move, bring both feet over and jump right in. In my experience with ex pats, those who leave one foot back in the UK, who keep comparing countries, towns or cities or grumbling about how things are different and so on, those are the ones who never truly settle or find it harder going. As has been said by others here also, life is different in Aus. The mentality of the people, the way they socialise, it all makes for it being different. So its a case of adapting to being there and finding your feet in it all.

 

I plan to do as I've always done when moving overseas. Plan as much as I can, save some pennies, book those tickets and get on the plane and not look back. And when I land at the other end, its a fresh start, clean slate and what I knew I try to leave well alone and just think of with fond memories and a smile but never let myself linger to long with those thoughts. Just long enough and then back to my new life and living it.

 

However I do appreciate that how I approach things is not for everyone and of course people will do what works for them

[HEAPS GOOD !!!]

We lived in little village near Cheltenham.....just down the road from the race course.....it is a very very beautiull part of the world and the furtheer south down the M5 you go the better it gets...then you hit Devon and Cornwall and its quite breathtaking.....

 

Cold frosty mornings....scraping the car to get to work.....dnt miss that lol.....

 

where bouts are you guys?

 

HG

[snifter]

We lived in little village near Cheltenham.....just down the road from the race course.....it is a very very beautiull part of the world and the furtheer south down the M5 you go the better it gets...then you hit Devon and Cornwall and its quite breathtaking.....

 

Cold frosty mornings....scraping the car to get to work.....dnt miss that lol.....

 

where bouts are you guys?

 

HG

 

It is isn't it

 

Right now, a few miles outside of Bristol. Hubby got a new job and meant we had to move here as the commute was awful for him and us as a family. Before that we were on a farm just outside of Dunster. And before that, on the edge of Exmoor (5 years). And before that, living on the Quantocks, a village called Crowcombe. All that since 2000

 

I love rural England but the reality of living in it these days is far different from when I was a kid. I don't mind the town we are in now, its great if you have kids but I don't feel any great love for it or wish to live here long term. Its perfect for the next couple of years till we move to Adelaide. Near to Bristol for hubbys work and now mine. Great playgroups for our son and other facilities and also the city is 15 minutes away for a night out if we want. Plus I can walk from our house and be in the countryside within 15 minutes. And the shopping precinct in 5! So yeah, it ticks the boxes.

 

Given a choice I'd be back on the farm or Exmoor but realise that won't happen any time soon. Am ok with it, I at least had the opportunity to live there when I did. Adelaide is a change for me I know but I'm really ok with it. I like its smaller feel, its layout and the slightly slower pace of life. I can cope with that just fine

[sueoc]

I totally agree with your post from someone who is trying hard to adap to the lifestyle change. But often i think forums do place a bias on the positives and when u get here and things arent as they seem you do feel like your being "left out" if you post anything negative. Everyones experience is different we have to rememer that.

 

For eg some people may not giv 2 hoots about friends or family in uk, other miss them terribly but i dont feel it is fair to always hear Adelaide is utopia all the time, as has been said the hard work starts when u get off the plane. Myself i post what im thinking without thinking:biglaugh: , but people do struggle when then emmigrate its not easy, its not all bbq's and beach for some, and not everyone can afford to buy a 400,000 mac'mansion. we have to remember this. Anyway this probly wont come accross as i intend it to. But if you say anything negative on here your accussed of "moaning" or the yellow screen lol. Life is what you make it i guess and im not a moaner just an outloud thinker:chatterbox:. My experience here so far has been blighted by family ill health back in uk, the exp of the heathcare system where my mobile phone was robbed, speeding fines, work no-where near what i expected it to be, etc lol. Not everyone has been in adelaide for years, some are quietly (unlike myself) sat at home wondering what they did come here, but im now seeing the positives, it just taking time for me to settle doesnt make me or them bad people,nutters, whinging poms whatever . Anyway thats my peice said ,but i didnt expect it to be like greece or spain or anywhere sunny, that implies the brits abroad mentality and anyway im irish

Superb post,well said.

[Guest Guest75]

Superb post,well said.

 

That's a two year old post,perhaps Clare has changed her views now????

[Guest nicandchris]

Hi there

 

Its taken ages to read through all the posts today (in between looking after Henry our 8 month son) and i just want to put in a little post of my own. Lately ive written a couple of threads or answered a couple of threads and afterwards wished that i hadnt and yesterday i really thought to myself that i would leave this site alone for a bit - but today curiosity got the better of me and again i creapt back on to see what new threads had been posted.

 

Were just at the beginning of the journey and its felt like ages already to be honest. Chris my OH has his moments of wanting to head over and then not - i think that he's felt some sympathy for having to take the 2nd ielts again which may seem as nothing to some people but it is very very stressful and im glad that its over and fingers are crossed.

 

Anyway im rambling but what i want to say is that im thankful to the majority for being honest about life in Adelaide and the setting up of life over there. Im now aware of the need to try and set up a temp rental for as long as possible for when we arrive and i understand that finding a long term rental with dogs is not going to be easy.

 

Luckily ill have a job to start straight away after arriving that is not badly paid but im aware that this may not be exactly what i want and a step down from that of the UK but im ok with that as long as my shifts allow me time with my family as thats important to me. One of the main reasons for leaving the UK is that im/we are tired of the work work work ethic with no money or time to spend enjoying life and although both my oh and myself work hard now and will work hard, the future reality of dropping my little one off at 07.30 at nursery driving an hour to work and picking the little one up again at around 6.15pm to put him to bed an hour later five days a week is depressing and not one that we want to see ourselves doing for the rest of our lives.

 

I guess the worrying thing is that of selling the house over here in the UKand finding it too expensive to find somewhere decent in Adelaide, by decent i dont mean having a swimming pool or tons of bathrooms but having somewhere with room for the three of us, the dogs and that means a garden. Not necessarily neghbours on our doorstep nor shops close by but somewhere decent enough that wont kill us financially.

 

Anyway ive said enough but again the honest threads and posts are appreciated and at times if im honest they make me think twice about being so stubborn about givng everything to head over but i really do think that it will be worth it in the end.

[snifter]

That's a two year old post,perhaps Clare has changed her views now????

 

Hehe so those posts are. I read the most recent ones, went back and read the first few and saw the comment about people in the UK not replying and thought I had better catch up. That'll teach me not to read the forum when I am a) tired b) been out all weekend and c) tired

 

Still its a good thread and still relavent today as it was a couple of years ago

[Guest moonraker1959]

Reading this thread reminds me of when my family emigrated to Adelaide in 1970!!!! I really don't know how they managed it back then!I was a small child at that time,with 2 sisters and 2 brothers!All my parents had was a 2 page brochure about Australia!!!!Of course there was no internet back then to do research,no-one to ring in Oz for reassurance/info,it would of been too expensive anyway!My Dad had no work lined up(Plumber by trade)and we arrived at Adelaide airport,were transfered by an old coach to the "hostel"(which my parents fondly nick named the concentration camp because it looked like one).We stayed on that hostel for 10 weeks.We were lucky,some families stayed for a year or longer,I don't know how they did it because it really was'nt the nicest place to be.Gawler back then was a "country town"and from Elizabeth to Gawler was just paddocks.So perhaps to those people who are experiencing tough times,if you give people like my parents some thought,it may make the load abit lighter to bear,and be grateful you emigrated when researching ect is a whole lot easier!:daydreaming:Over time things do level out,my parents ended up doing really well for themselves,and often smile now when they recall those "Good old days".Be realistic in your dreams and be patient.It all takes time,and as each day passes it will get easier!!xx

[Guest sarahtwinn82]

...... if there is a country that gives stuff for free and i dnt have to work hard then i want to know wehere it is !!!!

 

That country these days is the UK, but only if you have never paid anything into the tax system. Of course it also helps if you want to criticise and destroy the UK from within.

 

Yes, it is definitely harder for immigrants to Australia than for immigrants arriving in the UK, but surely that is how it should be? We shouldnt arrive here, having never paid anything into the system and expect to be treated the same as those that have been paying taxes for 20, 30 or more years when it comes to benefits and the like.

 

Peter

[Guest Chandan]

My dad said to me recently that Adelaide is 20 years behind the uk, my response was that if thats the case my children will grow up without being stabbed or shot.

I think you need to keep an open mind, give it 100% and most importantly call Australia home:notworthy:.

 

Spot on, there is Panic in Adelaide at the moment because there has been 3 shootings this YEAR, all bikey gangs who are only interested in shooting each other

 

 

My husband mentioned today that even though the crime rate was said to be lower here in Adelaide you sure do hear about it going on, I replied to him that its only because it is ACTUAL news that you hear about it. In London so much was going on that there was too much to publicly report.. lil old Adelaide something happens like this and it does becomes news.

 

One of the many reasons why we moved was because I wanted to movemy kids away from London for fear of what may of happened in the future and with the right role models around us now we stand a better chance here than what they would have had in London, with all the wanna be teen gangsters that have no respect for themselves let alone others. and I am hoping my kids will only see the violence we saw in our neighbouring streets in London on some sword swashbuckly epic movie for Mature Audiences when they are 16!!

 

I am realistic and that I cannot shelter my kids for life but I am aware that I will be able to bounce some stuff away from them once in a while!

[Guest graandjac]

Originally Posted by Tyke

That's a two year old post,perhaps Clare has changed her views now????

:biglaugh:Its good to see posts moving on ....how long pmsl.....

[Guest WhatNow?]

It's good to see people recycling though...LOL!

[Guest lisa&russ]

As a newbie who is just starting out with the rollar coaster ride of getting from the UK to Adelaide I have to say I really appreciate threads like this. Whilst now and again if I'm having a 'moment' I like a 'rosey' answer to make me feel better about leaving the UK most of the time I'm searching for the nitty gritty reality of what will be when we (hopefully!) arrive - good bits and bad bits. So thank you - its a great help through all this to be able to hear other people's experiences!

Lisa