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I suppose you could point to the lacklustre growth in SA, less than national average population growth as being reasons for not requiring much spend. Then again you may need to take into account the performance and behaviour of the current SA government and the very childish rant that the premier made some weeks ago on camera and in public to the federal minister for environment and energy. Whether it's right or wrong, there was significant damage to SA incurred by Jay Wetherill in his rant to the federal minister. It does seem to me that SA has some significant leadership and engagement issues with the rest of the country. This did not happen overnight, it takes time to reach this level of performance and frankly when one really looks at the current SA government (or the opposition in waiting) , it just does not look like a government that will spend wisely or competently. Then again, you could argue from a federal point of view that there is no point throwing good money after bad ?

Sadly We have observed that in particular Adelaide, and the whole state in general, is apparently run by incompetents who have no future vision. The less than 2 million residents of South Australia are being financially raped to support the rapidly decreasing economic base. Many long-time Adelaide residents, homegrown and otherwise, are becoming alarmed at the deterioration of the economy and are selling up and moving interstate; of course, there will be exceptions to this yet SA has become a backwater with myopic vision and will not recover for many decades to come.it's mostly a great place to raise your kids( up to age 10 - after that forget it!!!!) if you have a decent and secure income and not resort to odd jobs that are beneath one's capability. We sold our house in 2015 and moved to a place that is vibrant, prosperous and truly inclusive; it is worth the effort to take the risk as we but cannot to take our children and their future our of this decay that this particular state is in. South Australia is in a race to the bottom and I don't think this a viewer friendly sport! My wife is from adelaide she feels that the state is in a dire mess as it has never been before. And, for the record, I am a hopeless optimist who always strives for a balance and rejects knee-jerk reactions. After all, one can't eat the sun and a beach becomes just that... a beach. Australia has been good to us and will continue to be so -- only not in Adelaide. Cheers! so we left in 2015, good riddance....................................

Theelph, Just be careful mate, not with standing personal pressures, you have to think about the practicality of it, if you wife's family owns a huge business in adelaide and you're happy to coast along with the family business, then super, play golf, fill your socks, but if you have any standards, professionalism or integrity and or ambition for your children well.............. see above - all those qualities will be sorely tested in adelaide as it's as one person once said - a race to the bottom...

Adelaide is a basket case, suggest you be versatile, patient, patient, patient and well.......patient 6000 jobs gone from adelaide CBD in 2 years http://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/03/16/adelaides-cbd-loses-more-than-6000-jobs-in-two-years/ good news though... This growth was mainly driven by newly opened hairdressing and beauty salons, and partially by the growing popularity of nail care services. if that's your skill set. Great!

The Quade Cooper fight was the closest thing I've seen since Rocky 2, great to see such an evenly matched fight

unfortunately (and this is perhaps a good thing for you) I have to comment that if your daughter has been accepted to one of the top schools in the UK, then anything in adelaide will simply amount to a severe limitation on her options, if she is your priority then you must stay with what you have already and know to be real, not something that might be in a place that may or may not be sub-standard to what you already have. That's the best I can manage given my opinion with adelaide.

Happy New year Snifter what a wonderful post, Home is really where you make it, for us, it's where we are at any one time. One thing I have learned from our time in SA is to be thankful for what you've got and what is important to you, in our terms, our most precious possession is time, time with the children, as it can all change in a blink of an eye. I read somewhere once, that life is not the big things, it's a massive collection of lots of little things that make up life Still ......Adelaide (grumble grumble )

"I have already fulfilled my living in SA for 2 years." rubbish. They can move on.

There is no binding, moral or legal obligation to stay, you can move as soon as you practically can.

just make sure you're not at the Ark when the swinger meet-ups are on.....

Just watched Team GB on the track, just awesome and history making. Lara Trott and Jason Kenny have 10 golds between them! Beautiful to see the old photo of the 10 year old Trott wearing wiggo's gold medal, with Brad Wiggins at the 2004 olympics, she now has 4 gold of her own. Excellent to see the comments by Cav thanking the team leadership, mechanics, nutritionists , clothiers , and the whole team spirit , the people you don't see he quoted.

Hey Snifter, Thanks for asking , I hope you are well also . All good here, family all settled, Kids all doing well, my aussie wife has settled into "country life" in east sussex quite alarmingly well! London busy as ever, but what a complete mess and turmoil on the Britexit debacle, Farage , Gove and Bojo have made fools of themselves and the people of GB, oh well onwards and sort of upwards..... , markets jittery but general feeling where i sit (city-finance-legal) is that there will be no significant change for years - if any. Other than that all good, actually enjoy my commute 95% of the time, kids old enough for me to see them when I get back and I'm reading books like there is no tomorrow. Off to Greek Islands for two weeks at end of july, going to duxford flying legends today and got stuck in the goodwood festival of speed on the way to TankFest in Dorset last week because a little 8 year old finger had pressed the satnav [avoid motorways button] on the prado!!!! Grrrrr Hope xenephon does something good for the state of SA, at worst he'll keep them honest at best he'll upset the boys club.. Best of luck, deryans

Hello, just little old honest me - I cannot tell a lie , a little more information that Jobseekers might want to read: http://indaily.com.au/opinion/2016/03/02/the-untold-story-sas-hidden-jobless-and-under-employed/ and http://indaily.com.au/business/analysis/2016/06/14/business-perceptions-of-sas-economy/ and here's a very accurate article from 2013 http://www.adelaide-southaustralia.com/news/adelaide-jobs/ hard to say it's got better or worse since then. Plenty more on both those sites, or if you prefer you can look at Koala's, newest boom suburbs, beaches , crows vs port stuff and Sparkling Wine receptions for locals and weird internet linked stuff from around the web in the comic known as adelaidenow.com.au Up to you

Oh dear, the advertiser (a news-corpse company) are really not all that smart!! 1. Go to main advertiser page 2. Identify headline you want to read 3. Try it..... If it's behind a pay-wall, then do this.. 2. identify headline you want to read. Copy headline text header e.g. "Mum from Adelaide leaved kids in car to play pokies.." Paste into google/yahoo etc and you'll get at least 2-3 maybe 4 links to other news limited websites carrying the same content read away...... like i said, news limited not that clever and not that organised globally, you'll be able to find the content on any number of their websites as it is obvious they cannot manage all the manure they publish easily.

Here is the same mayor of unley clown, cringe worthy and as one poster mentioned , quite possibly the funniest comment on indaily. Besides that, there are actually a number of french patisseries in Unley, one of which , Mulots' provides excellent instruction classes and evening training by Andre and his wife. http://indaily.com.au/news/2016/04/26/subs-celebration-adelaide-built-australian-made-australian-jobs-australian-steel/ Mayor Lachlan Clyne • 18 days agoGreat news for Unley! We want Unley to be the "home-away-from-home" for French nationals. As I said before, I support a French design in SA. I'm talking submarines. The relationship Unley is developing with the French through Alliance-Francaise and Creative France, through our long running hosting of the French Markets and our historical relationship with the French Town of Pozieres means I see a lot of positives for Unley should the build be given to France's DCNS. Unley could become the home away from home for French nationals and their families. Our residential lifestyle, with first class main-streets, close to the city with great schools would make us perfect for French families. A French influence in Unley would enhance our community, culture and add greatly to our lifestyle. Jocelyn and I are heading over to Pozieres in a couple of months in commemoration of Unley's Own, the 27th Battalion's involvement that most significant battle. Having met twice with the French Ambassador and just a couple of weeks ago a visiting French Senator, this visit will enable us to now take advantage of their invitations to further strengthen ties between Unley and specific French communities. SA Business Mayor Lachlan Clyne• 18 days agoThis is quite possibly the funniest comment I've ever seen on Indaily. You wouldn't happen to be positioning yourself to run in the 2018 State Election would you Lachlan?? I've no idea how you make these ridiculous connections to the Subs bid and Unley....its ridiculous to be honest. Mike Mayor Lachlan Clyne• 18 days agoCongrats Lachlan, you're the first of the hangers on.. This is the calibre of leadership........ hey-zeus wept

http://indaily.com.au/business/2016/04/12/sas-age-structure-holding-us-back-economic-paper/ make sure you read the comments, they are from locals

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=18103&page=1 Most of this unfortunately is not a surprise to me, as I'm sure it will be to no surprise to many of you reading it. It goes on everywhere, it's rife in London as it seems one man and his dog can become a recuiter, it takes time, experience and a seasoned approach to be able to spot them, of the 10 or so recruitment "pimps" I had contact with in adelaide, I'd say 1 maybe 2 were of any use and one of those i simply used as a factor once I actually got the position, contract and negoitiated them as a middle man becuase I did not want to deal direct with the gov, dodged a cashflow bullet on that one. Of the 10 or so recruitment "pimps" I used in London, similar story pretty useless, marginally better than adelaide if you stick to reference and the specialist agencies, currently no pimp needed so direct. These kind of plays by these people are survivable in a thick market with substantial programs of work underway, in a small contracting market, it must be hell, becuase they exclude, block and arbitrage their mates and best-margins into the jobs, so the experienced (read more expensive) applicants never get a look in... Malcolm King: Adelaide's private recruiters are listing false job advertisements, harvesting resumes to sell training and lying to candidates about their employment prospects. Thousands of job changers and desperate job seekers are wasting their time sending online applications off for jobs that don't exist. They are grilled by recruiters about their recent job interviews, then recruiters contact those employers to try sell them their candidates. Applicants are simply 'resume meat'. The English poet Shelley wrote, "in me lies such power, for I grow weary to behold the selfish and the strong still tyrannize without reproach or check." It's the tyranny of the few over the many as recruiters have inveigled their way, by craft and guile, to become the gatekeepers of leadership aspiration in Adelaide. Not a day goes by without my professional writing clients venting their spleen at private recruitment and private training agents. "As low as a snake's prostate," one client spat. In the journalistic spirit of a latter day Barbara Ehrenreich, I applied for a three-month position through a recruitment agency in Adelaide as a Senior Assessment Officer, working for the Commonwealth Government. The Government wanted 12 people to assess aged care grants across the state. It required a sound knowledge of policy and working within legal frameworks. I was interviewed and told a week later that I had not got the job. There was no feedback. No transparency of process. No accountability. I know why I was knocked back. I'm 56 and over qualified. Qualifications and executive experience are negatives in Adelaide. That's why I run my own business. I had previously worked for the Department of Employment in Canberra as an Associate Director in Labour Market Strategy. A core area was ensuring there were trained staff as the first wave of Boomers hit residential aged care homes. There's also rash of online jobs boards run by current or former recruiters, who funnel resumes directly to private training organisations. They use the resumes' private contact information to sell applicants training and then get them to access their VET FEE Help accounts. Private VET trainers (many are recruiters) have cajoled, scammed and burdened thousands of kids with unwanted VET-FEE billsfor rubbish training, delivered by people who can't teach and who are in it for the fast bucks. It wasn't until I saw a client, Bill, in his late 20s, that I realised how far and deeply entrenched some of these scams were. Bill saw a job advertised online at OneShiftfor a warehousing position in Adelaide. He sent off his resume. Three days later he was called by 'Guy' from OneShift in Sydney, who said he had not been short listed for the job. Guy said Bill's employment chances would 'improve drastically' if he undertook some Vocational Education and Training (VET) at a national private training provider. The cost was about three times what a TAFE program would cost and all he had to do was access his VET FEE HELP account. Bill said 'no'. In a world where the lowest common denominator is not hard to find, private recruitershave carved out their own niche. Unfortunately, they're also not the smartest girls and guys in the room. At a recent work function I spoke to a senior recruiter in her early 30s about the emotional impact of visiting Auschwitz in Poland. She looked puzzled. 'Did you go skiing?' She was hiring executives in Adelaide. Recruiters know very little about the competencies or capabilities of the advertised roles. Many have never been to a mine, a factory or know what an IT specialist does. If the recruiter doesn't know what the role entails, what's the point of talking to them in the first place? The brand damage to employers is incalculable. When liberty's light falls full on recruiter's startled faces, they scatter like cockroaches and wait nervously for the danger to pass. Or else they stand like pious deacons, full of their own importance, with one hand in the client's pocket while humbugging the career aspirations of tens of thousands of South Australians. A 2015 Four Corners program called The Jobs Game, found that some Job Service Australia (JSA) employees in Adelaide's northern suburbs put clients into courses run by the company's own registered agencies. There's no pretense of separation let alone transparency or accountability. Some jobseekers believe JSA's have forged their signatures and turned in false paperwork. A 2012 government audit found only 40 per cent of fees paid to agencies could be verified. What happened to the other 60 percent? Australia's welfare to work program costs $1.3 billion-a-year. Last year I emailed the reporter on the Four Corners program, Linton Besser, and he said that not one single local or Federal Government agency had done anything about it. It's a free for all with taxpayers money. One gets the distinct feeling that both the Government and the Department of Employment have put this in the 'too hard basket'. The time is ripe for a class action by those who, with evidence in hand, are willing to tell a judge and the media how they have been abused and how this scurrilous and predatory practice has effected their life. It's time to name names. We live in a world where corporations are judged by their partnerships. We should not support businesses who hire sharks and buffoons to traduce the character and intelligence of prospective staff. We live in a state that can only survive if we have the right people in the right jobs. We live in a time that cries out for authenticity, not deceptions; for truth, not lies. [h=2]About the Author[/h] Malcolm King works in generational workforce change. He was an associate director at DEEWR Labour Market Strategy in Canberra and the senior communications strategist at Carnegie Mellon University. He also runs a professional writing business called Republic.

Owner of coopers brewery seems to get it...................... comments are somewhat depressing by some of the readers..... PROGRESS will never be made in the city of Adelaide without a wholesale shift in thinking and intent from the top says a leading South Australian businessman. “It just won’t happen without a change in laws and attitude,” said the chairman of Coopers Brewery, Glenn Cooper, at an Adelaide City Council, ‘Lord Mayor’s forum’ this morning to discuss its new 2016-20 draft Strategic Plan. The plan, he says, is little more than window dressing and lacking the requisite substance to thrust Adelaide in the vanguard of 21st century Australia. “I have seen a lot of this before, predictions of growth but nothing will change. “I was interstate last week. People couldn’t believe we have laws in SA that say you can’t stand outside in a group to have a drink or that parts of Hutt St are restricted to four chairs at an outside table.” Such small mindedness is an indictment of outmoded attitudes still prevalent in SA he said. Mr Cooper was invited by the council to give his views on its 30 page offering, a ‘beautiful document’ he said that is effectively a triumph of style over substance. A panel comprising former state governor Kevin Scarce, Fringe chief Heather Croall, Lord Mayor Martin Haese, climate guru Nicole Halsey, Craig Holden from property developer Forme Projex and Mr Cooper discussed the merits of the strategic plan before around 70 civic leaders from across SA. Where is the reference to the 260,000 plus visitors Clipsal brings to the city every March, and the energy that engenders, he asked. Little progress can be made said Mr Cooper without the participation of the state government to repeal restrictive dining laws and more, citing a first rate fish restaurant in the CBD where the owner wanted to put up an awning outside the restaurant in the shape of a scallop but was told legislation required a standard black awning only. Such petty bureaucracy is anathema to progress he said. Adelaide City Council needs to help make things happen he said. “Look at Le Cornu, they haven’t been able to fix that, it is an indictment upon the city. Unless you are prepared to change attitude and assist, we can’t progress.” The council is not matching its intent he said. “People want Adelaide to come alive. The city needs to be a place where more people want to spend more time,” wrote deposed lord mayor Stephen Yarwood in the foreword to the previous (2012-16) strategic plan, a declaration of vibrancy the current crop of councillors is failing to meet said Mr Cooper. “It is affecting this state,” said Mr Cooper. “It requires change by the government, I live in hope.” We should be much more open in our ambition he said. “What’s the most romantic city in the world? Paris” asked Mr Cooper. “Paris has cold winters like we do. It has built awnings and facilitated outside dining all year round. Our council will not allow that …” Greg16 hours ago Glen is a practical leader who has called it correctly. It's as simple as that! He's right and the current employment and general malaise the city is in supports it. Well said Glen FlagShare LikeReply GLENN17 hours ago We can all start doing something, like voting for any other party other than the labor party at the next election. FlagShare LikeReply PonziScheme1 day ago Thanks Glen Cooper - we need new (and sensible!) ideas. We seem to have a silly bunch of politicians wanting to 'Rubbish' our state and turn it into a dump for the world. What sort of negative image does that project - especially if it is toxic nuclear waste. Come to SA 'Dump State' - try and sell that as a tourist destination. Try and sell our produce, watch our 'Clean, Green' market advantage disappear. All for a nuclear waste dump project that looks like it was done by schoolkids. FlagShare LikeReply Tanya1 day ago We've had different visitors from interstate over the last few years. They were brave enough to say what they thought, which means these things really stood out to them. They were all surprised about how old, tired, dirty and backward they found Adelaide. Even a Tasmanian! Dilapidated, with bad roads, and even worse drivers, they all said. And an attitude they didn't like. Attitude usually comes from the top. Glenn Cooper's comments are a wake up call that needs to be heard. FlagShare Reply Tanya1 day ago He's dead right. Vote 1. Glenn Cooper for Premier. david1 day ago This State is run by bureaucrats both at State & Local government level & its all about keeping them relevant when they are not. The only good thing I can say is that we have many councils & they are not all the same. There are actually good councils that do good work & live in the real world but the ACC isn't one of them. We have had a number of changes to the ACC in recent years but nothing changes IE PC nonsense that concentrate on the minority & ignores the majority & the amount od money wasted is criminal. Fortunately most of what goes on in the CBD is run by the Private sector even if they have to jump bureaucratic hurdles & still succeed. Yes we have to make room for cyclists & pedestrians but alienating the motorist is short sighted & ridiculous. FlagShare 4keReply Barrie1 day ago Like to see the State Govt plan to attract new industries ,not glossy brochures ,then targets for Public Servants to get results . FlagShare LikeReply david1 day ago @Barrie Absolutely but the State Liberals appear to be following the same path . It would appear that the Federal government is the only one likely to push us forward. If it wasn't for their money there is no future because Jay only makes plans that include Federal funds FlagShare 2eply Dave1 day ago There certainly needs to be a shift in sentiment from the government, the councils, the opposition and the public. And the biggest change is to create positive attitudes in this state. As soon as the government puts a new proposal out, a multitude of whingers who live in the past, put it down. The Liberals have opposed the electrification of the rail system, the tram line extensions, the redevelopment of the new Adelaide Oval, the new hospital etc. They also have done little to get the new subs and other warships built in Adelaide! There is a great proposal to redevelop Norwood Oval and its clubrooms, something that is long overdue, but 1 person, yes, 1 solitary, selfish person has opposed it, and now the redevelopment has ground to a halt! Great ideas flow into the state all the time, but listen to talk back radio and all of the whingers who oppose every new idea! It is no wonder that things don’t happen in this state and jobs aren’t created! Positive, vibrant attitudes will see SA develop and prosper, but ridiculous, small minded laws need to be removed, like the restrictive dining laws! FlagShare 3eReply david1 day ago @dave Rubbish. Liberal plans were similar like they wanted a new oval but not a redevelopment. The Tram extension is only popular because its free & we are broke. The RAH isn't finished & its yet to prove itself worthwhile & will reduce the capabilities of the rest of the Health network to pay for it. The Liberals have not done anything to stop & not promote warship building. What they have done is stop it disintegrating into a farce. They have got the AWD back on track & made the ASC a viable option for expansion. The ASC under the Liberals will revolutionize ship building & the defence industry here in SA & is exactly what Mal Coper is talking about The ridiculous small mined laws are a product of the State government & its stupid PC attitude. FlagShare 3keReply Gregg1 day ago The problem is exacerbated by the fact that the NIMBYs will always rule FlagShare 3keReply sam1 day ago @Gregg Not necessarily. FlagShare LikeReply C1 day ago I agree, things need to change big time! Especially the ridiculous opening closing hours of businesses all over SA, still a complete and utter joke! An embarrassment to SA. FlagShare 6LikeReply Kenny1 day ago "Requires change by the Government" - joke right ? Even blind Freddie can see what's required - A change of Government. FlagShare John1 day ago Would be better if Coopers made drinkable beer (other than the licensed stuff like Carlsberg). FlagShare LikeReply sam1 day ago @john Hey, that's our beer, I like Coopers, always have, get lost. FlagShare 6 Stuart1 day ago I'm with Glenn Cooper and it's not just Adelaide City that has the problem. I own a very successful heavy engineering business in Gillman with my brother and we export our equipment all over the world and throughout Australia. I've been trying for 4 months to get approval from PAE Council to build an additional shed for storage on adjoining property we own but wow is this complicated and frustrating for such a simple building job?. How hard can they make something as simple as this? We design and build million dollar machines quicker than the Council can make up their mind if I can erect a shed. We earn export income which this state desperately needs, employ people who are desperate for work and pay plenty of tax, yet every way we turn it is harder and harder to do things in SA. One day we will simply join the rest of SA manufacturing and simply shut our doors and retire..... FlagShare 13eReply sam1 day ago @Stuart The only downside with export is that if we deliver something good like crayfish and prawns the stuff is exported and anything left we have to pay top dollar for or go without. FlagShare LikeReply Richard1 day ago Don't even think about visiting the city in a car. FlagShare 5eply john1 day ago @Richard Can't wait for it to move to Tailem Bend, there is no provable return on the $millions of taxpayers money pumped in.. none because the hotels would be full anyway. Besides nobody believes that 200,000,0000 go.. FlagShare LikeReply sam1 day ago @Richard This is part of the problem, no cars. If this city is to be more vibrant then the city must be open to all and provide parking long and short term. If not then I'm all for business' moving out of the city onto the Port Rd Hindmarsh leaving the city to the bike riders and city dwellers. Lets get started. FlagShare 1 John1 day ago Glenn is 100% right; but his comments will not change anything. We shall just get more talking and no action. We need to wake up and realise the word is passing us by. The potential is there and we try hard but that's not enough anymore. SA needs to wake up and stop being a 'nanny state'. Glenn Cooper is telling it as it is.... Hopefully someone is listening? FlagShare 10 sam1 day ago @john I'm not so sure we want to or be a Paris, London , New York or even a Sydney. May I suggest most South Australians like our city just as it is/was, a beautiful city to look at and live in. Bottom line, leave it as it is. Everybody stood by and watched as our industries were exported along with the work force to developing countries, now, it's too late, the horse has bolted. We do not need more people to develop or survive, we just need to be more innovative. I have always supported Cooper's, it's ours. FlagShare 1eReply Paul1 day ago You can't remain in the 1980s heyday of SA. The State Bank happened. Globalisation happened. Innovation and change are necessary, just to survive. This is a view barely understood by many of SA's yesterday-leaders. FlagShare LikeReply john1 day ago Don't worry about people on the pavement, as normal Adelaide will be deserted over Easter, apart from the hapless tourists.. Most cafes will be shut, the joke of a market will be shut. The 71,000 on the dole will be doing nothing certainly not enjoying camping or the regions. Some will wonder if the penalty rates were lower then they could have a job.. Until there is a govt that give a s**t about the unemployed and poverty and happy for them to work SA will continue its decline. FlagShare 1 sam1 day ago @john True, people just don't have the money any more, it has all been taken in levies and State tax's, there is nothing to get excited about here come long weekends. FlagShare

http://indaily.com.au/opinion/2016/02/17/sa-planning-policies-make-housing-unaffordable/ Demographia’s research shows that the typical Adelaide house costs 6.4 times the median household income. By contrast, the typical house in New York is 5.9 times that mega-city’s median household income. Adelaide is now one of the least affordable cities in the world in which to buy a house. On a scale of 367 cities assessed, Adelaide sits near the bottom as the 321st least affordable city in which to buy a house. The rankings are calculated by comparing the median household income ($66,700pa) and median house prices ($430,000) against those in the other markets. The median price of a house in Adelaide is 6.4 times the median wage compared to 2.9 times in 1980 (according to Reserve Bank data); In contrast, Adelaide’s US Sister City, Austin (Texas), has an almost identical US dollar Median Household Income ($65,800 pa) but a significantly lower Median House Price ($264,000). Austin’s economy is currently rated number 1 in the US, has an average economic growth of 5.7 per cent over 10 years and job growth of just under 11 per cent over 5 years. The median price of a house in Austin is 4.0 times the median wage, compared to Adelaide’s 6.4. This is in keeping with one of our reasons for leaving adelaide, we saw this coming, even in Sydney our ratio was approx 5.1 times (on a good salary)when we were there, but this rose to 5.3 and up to 6 in adelaide as the pay is considerably less and the relative cost of housing (considering the employment market) and the restrictions mentioned above take effect. By contrast , it is floating around 4.5 where we are here in SE UK , considering the income potential, public transport and living outside the major cities, you get alot for your money.

of taxpayers money....... http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/oz-minerals-lured-to-adelaide-with-multimillion-dollar-deal-with-south-australia-government/news-story/23ae09bdb8515f5822b0074e1fdc7afd#load-story-comments SOUTH Australian taxpayers will pay $10 million over three years in a move designed to lure Prominent Hill copper-gold miner OZ Minerals to establish its headquarters in Adelaide. Melbourne-based OZ Minerals and the SA government have announced a research partnership which the government says will create 60 jobs in SA and lead to the construction of a resources demonstration plant. OZ Minerals’ Prominent Hill gold-copper mine, south of Coober Pedy, employs close to 1300 people, and it also has a support office at Parkside. Premier Jay Weatherill and Treasurer Tom Koutsantonis said bringing Australia’s third largest copper producer to Adelaide was a clear signal that SA wants to be the nation’s resources hub. “The heart of OZ Minerals’ operations have always been in South Australia and it is great news the company has now chosen to call Adelaide its home,” Mr Weatherill said. “The move makes sense as OZ Minerals’ two major copper assets, Prominent Hill and Carrapateena, are here in South Australia,” he said. Mr Weatherill justified the incentive to OZ Minerals, which has no debt and a cash balance of $219 million at the end of December. He said the government was required to “step up and take the lead” for economic growth. “It wouldn’t be happening if we didn’t pursue them,” he said. “We pursued them in a range of ways providing them with a range of incentives, one of which is co-investing.” The commitment will be funded out of the budget, the government said. Mr Koutsantonis said the State Government would “collaborate” with OZ Minerals to develop infrastructure in the state’s Far North “that could further improve the economic case for proceeding with Carrapateena”. In its feasibility study released last year, OZ Minerals estimated the Carrapateena deposit could be developed into a $2.98 billion mine that would run for 24 years - delivering more copper than Prominent Hill and more jobs. OZ Minerals new chief executive Andrew Cole refused to confirm the number of corporate positions being created at Parkside, saying the structure of the new office was yet to be finalised. “We are still working through it. I have no view on the jobs numbers (stated by the Premier), he said. Mr Cole also couldn’t say if the proposed new demonstration plant - linked to the $10 million from the State Government and $18 million from OZ Minerals - would be based in South Australia. Initial test work had been done at a facility in Perth. In its market announcement, OZ said it was downsizing its “corporate structure and cost base” for the move to SA, which will take six months. Most of the 45 staff based in Melbourne were unlikely to move, including 12-year company veteran and chief financial officer Andrew Coles, who has decided to stand down. OZ Minerals had also begun a strategic review of its business operations, to be completed by April. Mr Cole said the review would look at all options, including selling assets or the company itself. “All options are on the table. If the right bid is made for an organisation or asset, we are open to it,” he said. “You have to keep the emotion aside when you make a decision like this. It is a right decision for the company and its shareholders.” The changes were designed to “meet the challenges of a changing resource sector and to position the company for further growth”, Mr Cole said. A key factor in the relocation decision was the “valuable partnership” agreement with the State Government, he said. “Not only is this an innovative partnership.... it makes sense to be based there and I’m confident we can develop future local, national and international projects from Adelaide,” he said. The company’s market update saw OZ exceed its production forecasts. but.......... http://indaily.com.au/business/2016/01/15/more-sa-jobs-pain-as-100-contractors-go-from-prominent-hill/ Would it be unreasonable for the people of SA to ask for the 10 million back ?

I'm not making it up you know............ http://www.sapo.org.au/pub/pub885.html here's the link http://www.sapo.org.au/binary/binary706/Landry.pdf Jessica, May I ask you do you hold Recruitment SA/Aus /training/accreditation if there is such a thing, on diversity and non bias ? It's not a trick question, Because if you do then you've really got your work cut out for you in Adelaide.

a very reasoned response snifter, to avoid confusion, the comments are directed at Adelaide , recruitment and the australian experience question, this is not as some people seem unable to distinguish an attack on Australia, we spent a very fruitful 9 odd years in sydney before adelaide and we loved it. Sydney and Melbourne are very very different places, with substantial infrastructure, investment and a much thicker job market. If I were emigrating again, and I had some 12-15 years experience after spending some hard years getting on the employment ladder, time and money through Uni , professional development and had worked my way up to a level of competence and professionalism over those 15 years, I would not wish to throw away that potential, that professionalism and that drive in a market that knows neither what to do with that resource, nor values me for what I am capable of or experienced in, because of cliques, negative bias and nepotism. It's just not worth it, it is just too much to sacrifice and as you say it can be soul destroying if you take pride in your work and are professional.

Snifter, It's Brilliant, we went there for 8 days in Jan 2014. we took a 4x4 land cruiser, 2x tents, 1 41ltr freeze box and usual arctic survival kits....just kidding :0 3 (x2 nights) days camping in flinders chase west end of island, drive to western beaches (these are dangerous beaches please do not swim) and explore, camp facility is fine, showers, barbies etc , then down to Vivionne for 1 day and the rest in a beach house on Emu bay (very safe for kids - but check yourself please). Big dunes at little sahara is great fun for the kids, there is plenty to do really and chill/fish etc, locals are actually very OK (being an Islander myself i'm a little switched on to the way of thinking - it;s an islander thing ) The Island is a treasure trove of stuff, from wildlife to flora, but Cape de Couedic is my all time favourite where Baudin met Flinders and came to an "arrangement" to explore together, it's a vastly wild landscape, and you can imagine how hard it would have been 200 years ago, remarkable rocks, penguins, and a rare and unique honey bee make for a pretty cool Island! and I went to the Navy Museum at Greenwich an looked at Flinders Bar last year, for me it was a sort of round/finality , but hey that's life. Especial treats were the kids waking up with two echidna waddling through our campsite, at night (it gets dark pretty early) we're all famished and tired, wildlife come through your campsite and well do what they do , examine, snuffle, look and shuffle, kids absolutely loved it, and it's an experience I'd recommend to anyone. I can't really give you a downside (yeah, I know , unusual for me), maybe the traffic is a bit dense getting back up to Adelaide, and I cannot stress that the western beaches are a no-go, even for a dip, the rips and undertows are vicious and I know this because my old crusty surfie mates tell me this, northern eastern are better, sheltered and great for kids, you can drive the car on the beach, light a fire and have a lobster and champers, sorry, crayfish and sparkly white, heck it;s the same thing. ferry crossing is a no big deal, think it's just sub or maybe a little over 1 hour. enjoy! and buy honey from the island and take it home, it's unique and no we did not critically need the 4x4, only for space, all of the roads we drove on were passable, tough but passable (that corrugated aussie road/ridge thing they do in the NT to make roads that bump the hell out of you but are just a very bit uncomfortable, so what I'm saying is ford fiesta not ok, larger estate OK)

I apologise in advance and I do hope you don't take this personally ... but..... given the current economic climate in south australia, you are misleading the poster. Unprofessional and biased recruitment practices, unconscious bias, in-group discrimination and entirely illegal and counter productive attitudes in untransparent recruitment , in a word, reputation damage. It's easy to throw roses and saying "Honestly I wouldn't worry about it" is one of the most irresponsible thing's i've read on an online forum. OP has said her husband works in Govt and investment banking (none in adelaide sadly), specifically in 3/4gl/C++ a discipline almost exclusively used by specialist Military/Aviation and firmware programming in defence contracting in SA. Bank SA or any other large commercial outfit in Adelaide (are there any left ?) is unlikely to need those skills, but the Military will, and they will require at a minimum solid SC and at worst Citizenship. Frankly, that is entirely conjecture on your part, and dangerous conjecture at that, the OP's husband ain't going to walk into a 150K aud job (which equates roughly to a baby contractor starter rate in the UK with that Skill set) in SA straight off the boat, unless he nails down the job with the MIL/Defence before he arrives, otherwise he's just another "resource" looking for a start in a dying and contracting marketplace : Ad-dull-ade Incorrect, if a business case can be made to bring you on board and the funding can be found then pay-scales don't apply as you will be tied to a project or a program of work that makes use of your unique skill and experience (aussie experience in my case), as I was when I worked for the public service, I was certainly well paid and equivalent to SA exec level, just no tenure and having to watch executives who could barely tie their shoe laces whilst the potential of their young staff was wasted was too depressing. sadly, everything you say is general and non specific, it would be good if you could give a concrete example to the original poster, but it seems you can't ? neither are they.... Finally, I suggest Melbourne or Sydney, OP will do very nicely with those skills if he's any good.