887 Visa - What's the update?

[Megrand1]

4 minutes ago, Sin said:

So, that means we just need to upload the documents and they will come to know when they will check our file again. Am I right?

Correct

[Dmytro]

38 minutes ago, DANISH RAZA said:

 

So Quite .

17 July 2018 Application

July 6 2018 no grant yet... 

[DANISH RAZA]

28 minutes ago, nudgee said:

I miss all the silent followers 

May be after 30 June, 

This fiscal year they are already done with allocation of 887

[DANISH RAZA]

21 minutes ago, Angry Coder said:

Well, it makes sense to wait for his response and then attach that to all subsequent letters. 

Have you complaint ? what response ?

[Megrand1]

8 minutes ago, DANISH RAZA said:

Have you complaint ? what response ?

The Minister's

[TTTF]

2 hours ago, Stellajane said:

Hey @Megrand1,

Thank you for taking the effort to write this letter.  I fully support the pathway that this group is taking in addressing this issue to a member of the parliament. The wait is indeed endless and horrific.

You requested some suggestions, so I'm taking the opportunity to address some concerns of mine. Please do not take this personally, you're doing a great job already and your time and effort is truly appreciated. 

In order to hopefully make this as successful as possible, please consider the following:

Body of letter – use the EPIC format – Engage reader, state the Problem, Inform about solutions, and give a Call to action.

In my opinion, your first paragraph states immediately the facts and the numbers rather than engaging the reader to learn to understand where the problem is coming from. 

I believe a better format would be is engaging the reader with triggering him with a few of the struggles we face on a daily basis due to the processing times. That will want him to understand and learn more about it. So maybe you can re arrange some paragraphs.

I also remember a post of @TTTF in which he/she states a few questions to the DHA that might help in stating the problem and informing about solutions. That post is already from a while ago, maybe TTTF can repost to see if it might be helpful?

I think it is important to suggest solutions, state questions and make the reader think about to problem. 

We need to try to make the letter as such that the minister kinda just has to forward it to DHA and ask them. " What is going on here? We have received a complaint that we need to address. Read this, answer the questions  and tell me why we have such processing times and what are you going to do about it?.

I hope you understand,

Stellajane

Thank @Stellajane and @Megrand1 for your work on this. 

I read the letter in detail and agree with @Stellajane it definitely requires reformatting. There are specific formats when you write a letter to any minister and it needs to be used. The letter should address details such has, to whom the letter is addressed to, subject, Purpose, what is the discussion point, what is the response requested on etc.

Couple of basics to be mindful of when communicating with government authorities, 

1. Minister cannot be addressed as "Dear" in official letters.Example - Hon David Coleman MP, Minister for Immigration, Citizenship, Migrant Services and Multicultural Affairs. 

2. The language cannot be aggressive and rude when it is addressed to a minister. "Moreover, as skilled immigrants, we observe that other skilled visa sub classes such as Subclass 189, 190 and 491 do not have such ridiculous processing times" 

Please refer to the letter attached for content and format.  You can edit to reflect current information as and where required. 

The most important thing from this action is ,

1. To demonstrate how hard things (practical difficulties)  become due to the processing delays

2. What we except from DHA as actions to address the issue. By this we are asking an response to the issues raised which is critical. 

Remember not all letters end up at minister's table. The letter should strong but polite communicating the message required.   

Hope you get the perspective what I am trying put across. You have done a great job here. Hope this helps the cause. 

Also on a practical side of things - when this is issue is seen at a government level as compared to other ongoing issues ( bush fires/floods/virus etc) it will be classified as a low priority hence resulting in such delays. 

Thanks

 

LETTER TO THE ADDRESS PROCESSING DELAYS FOR 887 VISA.docx

[Maninder]

no grants this is absurd 

[nudgee]

Thank [mention=4046]Stellajane[/mention] and [mention=3902]Megrand1[/mention] for your work on this. 
I read the letter in detail and agree with [mention=4046]Stellajane[/mention] it definitely requires reformatting. There are specific formats when you write a letter to any minister and it needs to be used. The letter should address details such has, to whom the letter is addressed to, subject, Purpose, what is the discussion point, what is the response requested on etc.
Couple of basics to be mindful of when communicating with government authorities, 
1. Minister cannot be addressed as "Dear" in official letters.Example - Hon David Coleman MP, Minister for Immigration, Citizenship, Migrant Services and Multicultural Affairs. 
2. The language cannot be aggressive and rude when it is addressed to a minister. "Moreover, as skilled immigrants, we observe that other skilled visa sub classes such as Subclass 189, 190 and 491 do not have such ridiculous processing times" 
Please refer to the letter attached for content and format.  You can edit to reflect current information as and where required. 
The most important thing from this action is ,
1. To demonstrate how hard things (practical difficulties)  become due to the processing delays
2. What we except from DHA as actions to address the issue. By this we are asking an response to the issues raised which is critical. 
Remember not all letters end up at minister's table. The letter should strong but polite communicating the message required.   
Hope you get the perspective what I am trying put across. You have done a great job here. Hope this helps the cause. 
Also on a practical side of things - when this is issue is seen at a government level as compared to other ongoing issues ( bush fires/floods/virus etc) it will be classified as a low priority hence resulting in such delays. 
Thanks
 
LETTER TO THE ADDRESS PROCESSING DELAYS FOR 887 VISA.docx

You are a genius

[Angry Coder]

Guys, 

I resubmitted my Police Check last year in July thinking, they will pick up my case by November. As the time is continuously soaring, Just wondering, when should I get a new police check? 

[nudgee]

I am so upset and call the home affairs again I been waiting for 21 months and they told me I am within the timeframe of 22 months..

[SJay]

3 hours ago, Megrand1 said:

Additionally, his response might be sent to the lawyer if we decide to proceed with a legal action

Only if he replies.  Anyway a weldone on your effort mate. 

[Maninder]

I am thinking of spending more money and applying 190 I checked how much points I make 110 points you recon I’ll get invitations quick 

[nudgee]

1 minute ago, Maninder said:

I am thinking of spending more money and applying 190 I checked how much points I make 110 points you recon I’ll get invitations quick 

yea you will get the 190 invite and the grants and perhaps still faster than 887, 

190 state nomination is 2 months and the visa processing time is another 2 months, so you get your PR in 4 months 

[nudgee]

Discrimination happens when a person, or a group of people, is treated less favourably than another person or group because of their background or certain personal characteristics. This is known as ‘direct discrimination’.

It is also discrimination when an unreasonable rule or policy applies to everyone but has the effect of disadvantaging some people because of a personal characteristic they share. This is known as ‘indirect discrimination’.

 

Do you guys think we can complaint to human right, based on the definition above from the Human right website 

 

[887 visa]

2 minutes ago, nudgee said:

Discrimination happens when a person, or a group of people, is treated less favourably than another person or group because of their background or certain personal characteristics. This is known as ‘direct discrimination’.

It is also discrimination when an unreasonable rule or policy applies to everyone but has the effect of disadvantaging some people because of a personal characteristic they share. This is known as ‘indirect discrimination’.

 

Do you guys think we can complaint to human right, based on the definition above from the Human right website 

 

Yes i think it will work

[Kumar887]

Unbelievable guys. Nothing is happening.


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[nudgee]

this is the timeframe when I applied for 887..

[SJay]

Look guys, I really don't wanna comment anything here. all that I can think of is Swear words due to the frustration I have towards this shithole that all of us are stuck in.

[Sofee]

5 hours ago, Sin said:

Guys, where is the information provided button we need to click after submitting the additional documents they have asked for?

Mine was at the bottom of the ‘attach document’ page. 

[Maninder]

1 hour ago, nudgee said:

this is the timeframe when I applied for 887..

Same here mate it’s totally unsatisfactory 

if you complain inni and is oh sorry you are in allotted timeframe well that was the time frame when I applied so I thing I am well above the time frame if you change it not my problem 

Edited February 25, 2020 by Maninder

[KMMC]

I officially joined you all in the waiting room today.

application submitted - finally!

[Newuser12]

Hey guys it's hard to believe but Australia don't have a full time immigration Minister as David Coleman is on indefinite personal leave

[Splash]

Guys we have to take stand. We can all contribute and make stand. If not many applicants will die with stress and frustration . Thanks 

[Muhammad]

This 887 visa situation  is Unbelievable and quite sad...The lies I tell my self everyday so I don't loose my mind..oh well

[nudgee]

I believe they will increase the processing time again to 21-24 months next time, they did nothing in Feb, I am dying of depression