Riots in London

[Guest bosco]

one innocent killed is one to many especially if its your own kid,think about it before starting to shoot.

[Guest cornish Busdriver]

I seen somewhere that Cameron has now given the go ahead for the use of batten guns in the riots.

[RockDr]

The Police are already allowed to use baton rounds, they don't need Cameron's go ahead. Police chief basically said they'd only be using them if fearing for the lives of the police officers.

[RockDr]

Apparently several councils have plans to evict anyone from council housing if they or their children are found to have been rioting.

[Guest cornish Busdriver]

Sounds good, these stupid idiots don't realize the consequences of there actions like the the councils and government finding more cash to repaire all the damage e.g. Higher taxes

[Rachiegarlo]

firstly evicting people and making them homeless just pushes trouble onto somewhere else, making these people clean up the mess of their making and pay for repairs even if it takes them 20 yrs as part of their wages/benefits are appropriated might bring home to them what they have done a tad more. Secondly a lot of these people probably don't pay taxes. also Northern Ireland is a totally different issue so please don't digress further on that subject in this thread or it will be locked.

[ladycasper]

Ok We all know what a mess it is !! and give reasons like poor parenting, race etc..

 

But what can be done to stop the rot ?!

 

Only 2 measures

 

Stop all immigration into the UK full stop.

 

Increase the deterant !!

[RockDr]

So Rachel, you think these people should get to keep their council homes, even though there's a huge waiting list of people needing those homes, and who haven't been burning down the neighbourhood?

[Rachiegarlo]

Address the issues, not create more. If some of these people are already marginalised, then making them homeless wont change their views. It has already been found that harsh punishment usually is no deterrent. They lose their homes they just think its all about them. Put them to work fixing the homes and businesses that got damaged, they might just realise that those people are just like themselves...no better no worse. Get the idle working for their benefits but within their community and lastly adults within these communities have to speak loudly about their misbehaving, disaffected youth and know they can and will be sorted out. Time for adults to stop being scared of speaking out and acting within their communities. There have always been thugs and hoodlums, but think back to when boys and girls left school at 14, became apprentices or went to work under the gaze of older men and women who kept them in line. Their time off was valued. It will take years to turn it around but putting people out on the streets is not going to do anything because they will then be homeless will have to be put up in hotels and then found accommodation, especially if there are children involved. If they are childless adults, then jobs may be lost, health crime etc affected and there you just have a vicious circle. Sure some homeless people will be given accommodation if you clear them out, but you would just be replacing them with the people you turfed out who have already shown their tendency towards crime. There is no simple answer except that people must stop thinking they are untouchable, the prisons are full and so what the government cant do anything about them.

[Jessica Berry]

My brother sent me a text yesterday (we are originally from Nottingham) to update me on the trouble that had spread to Nottingham and I was really worried reading it until I got to the end of the text message and he said they were looting POUNDSTRETCHER and we had a laugh at that! There is no hope for these thick people!

[HEAPS GOOD !!!]

Due to the ill discipline and lack of respect which has been brought on by the doo gooders of society, who have stopped anyone from disciplining thier children we know have a lost gneration of people whom have been brought up to not work, sign on, rob, steal and plunder....this is going to continue for a long time as you cannot just rid society of these mindless disrespectful morons.

 

HG

[steveliane]

I'm origanaly from Eltham se london and a couple of shop windows got smashed but then the decent members of the public took to the streets themselves and there was no more of this crap, funny how the police presence didnt stop them but about 300 local blokes did.

[Guest Nick11]

How can any health care professional begin to help youths who think it is great fun to set fire to a childrens hospital?

Its just sick!!!

How a mentality like that is allowed to become so inherent in a person without being noticed is beggars belief.

Is there really any hope for people like these!!!!

Where would you even begin...never mind the resources needed to deal with someone like this.

As ever a band aid will be applied to stop the haemorraging!!!!!

[Diane]

Read in the ' tiser today that one of the 11 year olds charged yesterday was "taken to the court by his mother who was seen shouting at him afterwards" - had to admit that made me smile. Good on her!