887 Visa - What's the update?

[RANJU]

Another day gone without updates.

[Deep 14 april]

1 hour ago, sunnny said:

Hi @Deep 14 april , Did u pay any application fee for newborn to get bridging visa?

Did immigration sent you any specific form to get it signed by GP or you just got a letter from GP?

I applied my 887 on 4th april and uploaded my son's documents on 26th november.

No there is no fees for newborn. I only uploaded birth certificate , passport and form 1022 in immiaccount on 2 nov 2018.

They sent me a consent form which have to be signed by one of the parents and another thing they asked is letter from GP which should state they have examined the child and his health.

[dar8]

1 hour ago, Capboy said:

Hi guys!

I'm a newbie here and I've been following this topic for a while because you guys are giving me so much heads up on my 887 application in the future. Please pardon me if I'm in the wrong topic

I'm a 489 visa holder, working hard in hospitality casual jobs to accumulate the 1 year (35 hours per week) work requirement. I've been reading how you guys are submitting employment contracts, group certificates, payslips and etc etc.

But all I have from my employers are my payslips. I don't think a lot of cafe owners bother to give out employment contracts for casual employees. No need to mention group certificates at the end of the financial year.

Anybody in the same boat as me? Would I have issues in the future if I only have payslips as my supporting documents?

Thanks in advance for any advise!

 

I think it's an ato requirement for the employer to issue you group certificate by a certain date after end of each financial year , maybe you can ask your employer to give a copy of one if it fails ask ato if they can send you a copy of the group certificate that employer upload to ato , also are you getting paid superannuation?

i have a similar issue with my previous job where i wasnt given an official contract  , its a small business with no formal hr and only sent me an email offering the job which has no position details , also have an issue getting reference letter because i quit mid project and they are not happy about it and does not respond to my emails requesting a letter  , however the payslips i've got say my employment status is full time , again no position details mentioned. 

[Sharky0903]

8 hours ago, Deep 14 april said:

No there is no fees for newborn. I only uploaded birth certificate , passport and form 1022 in immiaccount on 2 nov 2018.

They sent me a consent form which have to be signed by one of the parents and another thing they asked is letter from GP which should state they have examined the child and his health.

Hi Deep, could you show me where to upload the documents in the immi? I may probabaly do the same thing in case my next baby comes before the visa grant. In addition, your 489 visa is still in validity or not? Many thanks!

[Russki]

11 hours ago, Sunnysideup said:

I just got a warning by Snifter (admin) for going out of topic which is weird when I am just compiling everybody's answer. Just waiting for an answer as to what happen.

How come?! I don't understand!!!!  What is happening??????

[Russki]

9 hours ago, Capboy said:

Hi guys!

I'm a newbie here and I've been following this topic for a while because you guys are giving me so much heads up on my 887 application in the future. Please pardon me if I'm in the wrong topic

I'm a 489 visa holder, working hard in hospitality casual jobs to accumulate the 1 year (35 hours per week) work requirement. I've been reading how you guys are submitting employment contracts, group certificates, payslips and etc etc.

But all I have from my employers are my payslips. I don't think a lot of cafe owners bother to give out employment contracts for casual employees. No need to mention group certificates at the end of the financial year.

Anybody in the same boat as me? Would I have issues in the future if I only have payslips as my supporting documents?

Thanks in advance for any advise!

Hi @Capboy!  

1. Payslips are great. Supplement payslips by your bank statements showing your wages coming into your account.

2. Get a letter from your employer (as per @02 Feb 18's advice) stating that you have worked for them from [date] to [date] with the signature and the employer's contact details. The letter should mention your position description in short, your duties and your gross annual income (not sure what it will be for a casual position, possibly, an hourly rate and average hours worked per week, so it is clearly over 35 hours per week?).

3. Not sure how, but try to organise your super somehow. Maybe, your employer under the obligation to do it for you or maybe you can do it yourself, I don't know much about it, but try to research it asap. maybe, you can register with a super fund and ask your employer to contribute $X amount for you every pay period? Not sure...

4. As @dar8 said earlier, a group certificate is a must with ATO office, please research that too.  

[peace_at_heart]

22 minutes ago, Russki said:

How come?! I don't understand!!!! 

@Russki , I could totally see it coming. Read a post of Sunnysideup where @Sunnysideup suggested that all of us while waiting for grant should "have an affair", "hire an escort", and "keep a mistress". Sunnysideup asked for it, in my opinion.

Anyways, I have just renewed my NPC and the PCC. I spoke with my agent, he said most likely my application will be opened in February, so I am crossing my fingers.

[RANJU]

Can somebody guide for getting medicare for new born.We got the newborn declaration from hospital. 

[Angos]

13 minutes ago, peace_at_heart said:

@Russki , I could totally see it coming. Read a post of Sunnysideup where @Sunnysideup suggested that all of us while waiting for grant should "have an affair", "hire an escort", and "keep a mistress". Sunnysideup asked for it, in my opinion.

Anyways, I have just renewed my NPC and the PCC. I spoke with my agent, he said most likely my application will be opened in February, so I am crossing my fingers.

your agent suggested to get it AFP and PCC renewed ? I am not sure, I have read in this forum or somewhere that once AFP and PCC is submitted, no need to renew it. Feeling confused!!!

[DKAGG]

4 minutes ago, Angos said:

your agent suggested to get it AFP and PCC renewed ? I am not sure, I have read in this forum or somewhere that once AFP and PCC is submitted, no need to renew it. Feeling confused!!!

Its better to be on safer side. Even I renewed my PCC & AFP. You never know what thing co will ask. you can call immi & try to confirm but most probably they won't give you a confirmed response.

[Angos]

2 minutes ago, DKAGG said:

Its better to be on safer side. Even I renewed my PCC & AFP. You never know what thing co will ask. you can call immi & try to confirm but most probably they won't give you a confirmed response.

Thanks @DKAGG. How you are dealing with the stress of PR. I mean it is really frustrating and irritating the way things are happening ...  

[peace_at_heart]

12 minutes ago, Angos said:

your agent suggested to get it AFP and PCC renewed ? I am not sure, I have read in this forum or somewhere that once AFP and PCC is submitted, no need to renew it. Feeling confused!!!

He said to be on safe side, just renew it.

[DKAGG]

15 minutes ago, Angos said:

Thanks @DKAGG. How you are dealing with the stress of PR. I mean it is really frustrating and irritating the way things are happening ...  

Hi Angos

The only stress is delay in PR is causing delay in everything else planned. I booked tickets to go to India in April and hoping by that time they will at least touch the file. This forum is a stress buster as we can see others are also sailing with us & I keep checking the posts whole day till I am in office.

[jagadeesh]

Hi every one.

Am very new to this group, i just got 489 grant in last month,

So am going to ready all of my documents for 887 visa.

Rental Bond (but i rented house from landlord there is no real estate Agents)

so i took Rental Bond from online

Utility bills

offerletter from employer

fortnight Payslips (is this okay or need to arrange  weekly payslips)

please suggest me what else i have to  arrange???

 

Thank you in advance 

 

 

Edited January 29, 2019 by jagadeesh

[Russki]

37 minutes ago, Angos said:

your agent suggested to get it AFP and PCC renewed ? I am not sure, I have read in this forum or somewhere that once AFP and PCC is submitted, no need to renew it. Feeling confused!!!

 

31 minutes ago, DKAGG said:

Its better to be on safer side. Even I renewed my PCC & AFP. You never know what thing co will ask. you can call immi & try to confirm but most probably they won't give you a confirmed response.

@Angos, you are confused, because it is really confusing!  I rang immigration twice about it and both times they said no, no need to renew anything. Yet, they do ask sometimes to renew expired police certificates. Not from everyone, but from some unlucky applicants. So it is really our choice whether to risk it and not renew or renew and feel safer.  

[Navdeep]

1 hour ago, Russki said:

 

@Angos, you are confused, because it is really confusing!  I rang immigration twice about it and both times they said no, no need to renew anything. Yet, they do ask sometimes to renew expired police certificates. Not from everyone, but from some unlucky applicants. So it is really our choice whether to risk it and not renew or renew and feel safer.  

I feel they ask for the PCC or AFP not necessarily in case they have expired but incase they want to clear some doubts. They have asked for new afp even before they have expired in some cases.

[Russki]

13 minutes ago, Navdeep said:

I feel they ask for the PCC or AFP not necessarily in case they have expired but incase they want to clear some doubts. They have asked for new afp even before they have expired in some cases.

Yes, this is actually a good point @Navdeep. I have noticed that too.   Sometimes they even ask for hard copies of certificates if they are not sure...

[George]

Hi 489rs.

I've been heavily criticized and also offended here before for expressing my thoughts 'without sympathy' for others. 

So I'll start saying I really wish everyone the best, really understand how hard it can be to immigrate.

However, I intend to discuss the cold hard rules and requirements, not judging anyone's right to be happy.

So...

Two common mistakes some people do, and then they come here to ask for help. (although there's no problem in asking for help here, I prefer a less sweet, more direct speech)

1) Live with someone, name not in the contract and struggle to prove 2 years in Australia: 

The real estate contracts are clear, if the primary tenant decides to have someone else living in the house (you), they MUST ask the landlord's approval. And then the new guy (your) name will be part of the contract. End of the problem. If your friend owns the house, do a rental agreement with him, in writing. 

If you want to have your 887, start doing the right things on day 1.

2) Worked in hospitality, taxi driver etc. and struggle to prove 1-year full employment.

The 489/887 scheme suppose to attract skilled workers to Australia. If you're not working in your "close related professional area" you shouldn't be applying for the 887.

Before throwing the rocks on me, please considers it's not my words. It's from the Immi page. We all had agreed with this when we applied for the 489, don't complain now.

(my main friends here are cleaners, construction labours and Uber drivers, so it's not a demerit, I'm discussing the rules only. Australia may not need more workers in these areas, just it.)

 

Why am I saying this?

I believe they will be more strict with the assessments from now on. (See @Russki 's case). They want to reduce the number of grant, one solution is tight the assessment.

I don't want anything bad for you guys, just be prepared for "surprises" (it shouldn't be a surprise once we all knew the rules, but the Immi has been lenient).

 

Last thing.

How much extra time and delay to everyone will take for a case officer to assess an application full of statutory declaration, bills of this and bills of that, letters from friends (useless) etc etc, if compared to a simple 12 (or more) payslips, a rent agreement, a bank statement and maybe a supper or tax return? If are not able to secure a job in your field, you may try another visa type)

I know they are not doing their work properly, but shouldn't we start doing our part too? (Doing things right, according to the requirements, to provide clear, simple, easy documentation). It will improve the assessment turnaround.

 

  

[RANJU]

44 minutes ago, George said:

Hi 489rs.

I've been heavily criticized and also offended here before for expressing my thoughts 'without sympathy' for others. 

So I'll start saying I really wish everyone the best, really understand how hard it can be to immigrate.

However, I intend to discuss the cold hard rules and requirements, not judging anyone's right to be happy.

So...

Two common mistakes some people do, and then they come here to ask for help. (although there's no problem in asking for help here, I prefer a less sweet, more direct speech)

1) Live with someone, name not in the contract and struggle to prove 2 years in Australia: 

The real estate contracts are clear, if the primary tenant decides to have someone else living in the house (you), they MUST ask the landlord's approval. And then the new guy (your) name will be part of the contract. End of the problem. If your friend owns the house, do a rental agreement with him, in writing. 

If you want to have your 887, start doing the right things on day 1.

2) Worked in hospitality, taxi driver etc. and struggle to prove 1-year full employment.

The 489/887 scheme suppose to attract skilled workers to Australia. If you're not working in your "close related professional area" you shouldn't be applying for the 887.

Before throwing the rocks on my, please considers it's not my words. It's from the Immi page. We all had agreed with this when we applied for the 489, don't complain now.

(my main friends here are cleaners, construction labours and Uber drivers, so it's not a demerit, I'm discussing the rules only. Australia may not need more workers in these areas, just it.)

 

Why am I saying this?

I believe they will be more strict with the assessments from now on. (See @Russki 's case). They want to reduce the number of grant, one solution is tight the assessment.

I don't want anything bad for you guys, just be prepared for "surprises" (it shouldn't be a surprise once we all knew the rules, but the Immi has been lenient).

 

Last thing.

How much extra time and delay to everyone will take for a case officer to assess an application full of statutory declaration, bills of this and bills of that, letters from friends (useless) etc etc, if compared to a simple 12 (or more) payslips, a rent agreement, a bank statement and maybe a supper or tax return? If are not able to secure a job in your field, you may try another visa type)

I know they are not doing their work properly, but shouldn't we start doing our part too? (Doing things right, according to the requirements, to provide clear, simple, easy documentation). It will improve the assessment turnaround.

 

  

Thts what I m doing CO has to decide whether I should have worked as full-time cleaner in designated  area or present job as Project Engineer in tier 1 company and paid 30k tax in non designated area.I am going from designated area to work.

[Deep 14 april]

6 hours ago, Sharky0903 said:

Hi Deep, could you show me where to upload the documents in the immi? I may probabaly do the same thing in case my next baby comes before the visa grant. In addition, your 489 visa is still in validity or not? Many thanks!

After logging in your immiaccount u can put the details of the newborn in update details section.

 

Than attach documents under form 1022 notification of change in circumstances.

[George]

5 minutes ago, RANJU said:

Thts what I m doing CO has to decide whether I should have worked as full-time cleaner in designated  area or present job as Project Engineer in tier 1 company and paid 30k tax in non designated area.I am going from designated area to work.

Truly understand mate.

Lots of top professionals with nice job offers in central cities but cannot go due to visa restrictions. Then you submit yourself to a lower pay, casual, no skilled jobs; with the risk of not matching the 887 requirements.

There is a quite big discussion about this atm. They want us in the regional, where they suppose need us, but jobs are not there.  Well...to honest, I live in a regional and I see some jobs vacancies that companies cannot fill (talking about skilled positions, incl project engineers). The problem is, in the regional area, people rely more in networking, If you're not in the market, it's hard to enter. I think big cities are different. 

The only thing I can suggest is expanding your search to other regional areas (not only where you live now).

[Dee]

1 hour ago, George said:

Hi 489rs.

I've been heavily criticized and also offended here before for expressing my thoughts 'without sympathy' for others. 

So I'll start saying I really wish everyone the best, really understand how hard it can be to immigrate.

However, I intend to discuss the cold hard rules and requirements, not judging anyone's right to be happy.

So...

Two common mistakes some people do, and then they come here to ask for help. (although there's no problem in asking for help here, I prefer a less sweet, more direct speech)

1) Live with someone, name not in the contract and struggle to prove 2 years in Australia: 

The real estate contracts are clear, if the primary tenant decides to have someone else living in the house (you), they MUST ask the landlord's approval. And then the new guy (your) name will be part of the contract. End of the problem. If your friend owns the house, do a rental agreement with him, in writing. 

If you want to have your 887, start doing the right things on day 1.

2) Worked in hospitality, taxi driver etc. and struggle to prove 1-year full employment.

The 489/997 scheme suppose to attract skilled workers to Australia. If you're not working in your "close related professional area" you shouldn't be applying for the 887.

Before throwing the rocks on my, please considers it's not my words. It's from the Immi page. We all had agreed with this when we applied for the 489, don't complain now.

(my main friends here are cleaners, construction labours and Uber drivers, so it's not a demerit, I'm discussing the rules only. Australia may not need more workers in these areas, just it.)

 

Why am I saying this?

I believe they will be more strict with the assessments from now one. (See @Russki case). They want to reduce the number of grant, one solution is tight the assessment.

I don't want anything bad for you guys, just be prepared for "surprises" (it shouldn't be a surprise once we all knew the rules, but the Immi has been lenient).

 

Last thing.

How much extra time and delay to everyone will take for a case officer to assess an application full of statutory declaration, bills of this and bills of that, letters from friends (useless) etc etc, if compared to a simple 12 (or more) payslips, a rent agreement, a bank statement and maybe a supper or tax return? If are not able to secure a job in your field, you may try another visa type)

I know they are not doing their work properly, but shouldn't we start doing our part too? (Doing things right, according to the requirements, to provide clear, simple, easy documentation). It will improve the assessment turnaround.

 

  

Can you please share your timeline? Thanks!

[Hewitt Tan]

Hi All,

I am on 489 family sponsored visa and going to apply 887 on early April (fullfil 2 years stay in Australia).

However, I worry about my 2 years stay in Australia. I live in

• Perth for 18 months (1.5 years)
• Weipa, Queensland for 6 months (0.5 year) - Due to 3 in 1 roster FIFO

I am wondering that am I eligible to apply for 887 as I am not living in Perth for 2 years.

Thank you,

[RANJU]

31 minutes ago, George said:

Truly understand mate.

Lots of top professionals with nice job offers in central cities but cannot go due to visa restrictions. Then you submit yourself to a lower pay, casual, no skilled jobs; with the risk of not matching the 887 requirements.

There is a quite big discussion about this atm. They want us in the regional, where they suppose need us, but jobs are not there.  Well...to honest, I live in a regional and I see some jobs vacancies that companies cannot fill (talking about skilled positions, incl project engineers). The problem is, in the regional area, people rely more in networking, If you're not in the market, it's hard to enter. I think big cities are different. 

The only thing I can suggest is expanding your search to other regional areas (not only where you live now).

I m n permanent role .I support regional sites from office with regional visit.I can transfer to Melbourne which s designated area but prefer to stay in Brisbane office because I know the team,known devil s better thn unknown. If we get gap in industry, I believe we  can't enter skilled job .I am happy to go back if any dramas.

[George]

57 minutes ago, Dee said:

Can you please share your timeline? Thanks!

Not sure what my timeline has to do with this conversation, but it's in the spreadsheet if you want to know.

Cheers.